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Symmetric Chaos
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Well, unless you know science and can tell me why, I see no reason to think a dead galaxy is any easier to destroy than a living one. They're just as big.

Actually in reality it would probably take more effort to destroy a dead galaxy.

In comics however the same is almost certainly not true.

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what exactly is a dead Galaxy?

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what exactly is a dead Galaxy?

It has no Stars.

Only dead Planets, gases, and space debris.

A dead Galaxy is far easier to destroy,

than one coursing with Stellar Energies.

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It has no Stars.

Only dead Planets, gases, and space debris.

A dead Galaxy is far easier to destroy than one coursing with Stellar Energies.

May 20th, 2007 08:56 PM

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Why exactly is a dead Galaxy easier to destroy? Energy just makes things more unstable.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
It has no Stars.

Only dead Planets, gases, and space debris.

A dead Galaxy is far easier to destroy,

than one coursing with Stellar Energies.

A) Where did you get this definition
B) A large area full of energy explodes much more easily than an area full of inert materials.

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Why exactly is a dead Galaxy easier to destroy?

Cause it has no Stellar Energy.

It probably doesn't have any giant gas planets either, like Jupiter and the like.

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Energy just makes things more unstable.

Imo, it's more difficult to destroy matter and Energy,

than just matter alone.

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A) Where did you get this definition

No where special, it makes sense. smile

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B) A large area full of energy explodes much more easily than an area full of inert materials.

I'm not surprised Odin and Seth were given "dead" galaxies to destroy,

Odin can mess with one "living" galaxy on his own, Seth? Not even one.

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Cause it has no Stellar Energy.

It probably doesn't have any giant gas planets either, like Jupiter and the like.

Imo, it's more difficult to destroy matter and Energy,

than just matter alone.

I think they're talking about using the energy present to help destroy the matter.

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I think they're talking about using the energy present to help destroy the matter.

So what destroys the energy?

That's why (imo) it's more difficult to destroy both.

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So what destroys the energy?

That's why (imo) it's more difficult to destroy both.

A bomb would destroy your body. It would not destroy the particles that make it.

In our universe conversation of mass and energy prevent the destruction of matter or energy under any circumstances.

I take the "destroyed a galaxy" thing the same way as "destroyed a planet" ie blew it the smitherines.

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That pretty much covers it. use the energy (stars) to destroy the matter (planets, asteroids, other satelites etc.)

sorta like how when DP munched on the star it blowed up taking out the nearby planet.

A dead one would be harder because rather than using energy that's already present you'd have to use your own.

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A bomb would destroy your body. It would not destroy the particles that make it.

In our universe conversation of mass and energy prevent the destruction of matter or energy under any circumstances.

I take the "destroyed a galaxy" thing the same way as "destroyed a planet" ie blew it the smitherines.

In order to destroy a living Galaxy,

let's say the Milky Way,

you have to have the power to destroy over 200 Billion Stellar Systems,

and about 30 Billion Planetary Systems.

And even in this instance, not only are the Stars/Suns alive with Energy,

but so are the Planets which draw on Stars.

Unlike a dead Galaxy,

Which has No Stars, and No Planets with life or energy of it's own.

In fact, according to Marvel, without Stars, Space becomes a Void.

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In order to destroy a living Galaxy,

let's say the Milky Way,

you have to have the power to destroy over 200 Billion Stellar Systems,

and about 30 Billion Planetary Systems.

And even this instance, not only are the Stars/Suns alive with Energy,

but so are the Planets which draw on Stars.

Unlike a dead Galaxy,

Which has No Stars, and No Planets with life or energy of it's own.

In fact, according to Marvel, without Stars, Space becomes a Void.

Picture if you will two scenerios

A.) you have a group of 5 men standing around an explosive device that if shot will explode.
B.) Same group of men not explosive.

Which group would take more bullets to take out?

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That pretty much covers it. use the energy (stars) to destroy the matter (planets, asteroids, other satelites etc.)

sorta like how when DP munched on the star it blowed up taking out the nearby planet.

Only neither Odin or Seth have the power to destroy more than One Galaxy,

heck Seth can't even destroy one on his own,

why are they now destroying Multiple Dead Galaxies?

Logic demands me to conclude there's a reason why Odin can't affect more than a Single Live galaxy and Seth even less than that,

but when the object of destruction is "Dead galaxies" ...

well now all of a sudden they take out more than several?

Coincidence?

Or is it easier to destroy "Dead galaxies?"

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Originally posted by Creshosk
A dead one would be harder because rather than using energy that's already present you'd have to use your own.

It's much harder to destroy a Sun than it is to destroy a Planet.

There's no arguing that friend. smile

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May 20th, 2007 10:27 PM

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Only neither Odin or Seth have the power to destroy more than One Galaxy,

heck Seth can't even destroy one on his own,

why are they now destroying Multiple Dead Galaxies now?

Logic demands me to conclude there's a reason why Odin can't affect more than a Single Live galaxy and Seth even less than that,

but when the object of destruction is "Dead galaxies" ...

well now all of a sudden they take out more than several?

Coincidence?

Or is it easier to destroy "Dead galaxies?"

It's much harder to destroy a Sun than it is to destroy a Planet.

There's no arguing that friend.

How does Odin not have the power to do what he's done? Also at that time seth was reagarded to as the most powerful being in the universe. Doubt it's true, but I'm just saying.

May 20th, 2007 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by Creshosk
Picture if you will two scenerios

A.) you have a group of 5 men standing around an explosive device that if shot will explode.
B.) Same group of men not explosive.

Which group would take more bullets to take out?

These analogies I don't agree with,

it's simple, a Living Galaxy has Stellar Energies Billions upon Billion of Suns/Stars,

a Dead Galaxy does not.

If you disagree, fine.

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I have another question, other than the one above.

How can one, shake the multiverse yet not have enough power to destroy a galaxy?

May 20th, 2007 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by His Airness
How does Odin not have the power to do what he's done?

What are you talking about?

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Originally posted by His Airness
Also at that time seth was reagarded to as the most powerful being in the universe. Doubt it's true, but I'm just saying.

I don't only doubt it. I ... no comment. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Originally posted by His Airness
I have another question, other than the one above.

How can one, shake the multiverse yet not have enough power to destroy a galaxy?

Ask Marvel?

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