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Originally posted by UniOmni
Superman has an aura that can be manipulated.

It's not like a bonafide forcefield.

Hence him being cut on an extremely sharp blade, ala Wonderwoman.

Do you understand what having the electrons blown off your atoms should do to someone in a logical world?

Vaporization, or a literal unmaking.

He should be a mere memory if comics used the sciences as a reference point at least, which would validate the voice not being used at all.
Her sword does that because it's MAGIC, not because it's sharp.


Superman is probably hurt, but he will survive, and probably not even be KOed, especially after having survived similar with banshee. Who's scream is written to be the equivelent to 10 atomic bombs, while Blackbolts profile ranks his as a single one.


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Supe would just have to take that lost. Its OK it happens to the best of us. Except for Cap.


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By all rights it should kill him. It wouldn't be written that way, but it should.

He would still lose by K.O. or BFR, though.


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By all rights it should kill him. It wouldn't be written that way, but it should.

He would still lose by K.O. or BFR, though.


Bolt's good, but I think I'd give Supes the majority over him.


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Her sword does that because it's MAGIC, not because it's sharp.


Superman is probably hurt, but he will survive, and probably not even be KOed, especially after having survived similar with banshee. Who's scream is written to be the equivelent to 10 atomic bombs, while Blackbolts profile ranks his as a single one.


I thought it was created to be sharp enough to shave an electron off an atom?

That's different than being enchanted to be able to cut anything. That's just being sharp on a scientific level.

And Banshee isn't BB.

Nowadays, it'd likely be the same in type, since Marvel is slowly but surely turning him into a superstrong guy with a superstrong sonic scream, while phasing out his uber electron control for some odd reason, but in a world that makes sense him and the silver Banshee are two entirely different animals, with him being the much more powerful animal.

His voice is supposed to severely scramble all the electrons in the immediate area, with the more effort he puts into the words, the more drastic the reaction.

Capable of blowing the electrons off an atom.

That's much more dangerous than a sonic shriek.

Do you know what should happen to anybody who has their electrons blown off their atoms, i repeat?

And Equus from For Tomorrow and others show that Superman can be cut and isn't imperviously shielded.

Unless you wanna go the route of TP and just throw it out the window cuz you don't like it?

Would Superman survive a scream?

I highly doubt it, but i'm pretty sure it wouldn't get to that point in a comic anyways.


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Her sword does that because it's MAGIC, not because it's sharp.


Superman is probably hurt, but he will survive, and probably not even be KOed, especially after having survived similar with banshee. Who's scream is written to be the equivelent to 10 atomic bombs, while Blackbolts profile ranks his as a single one.
Would a Watcher be overpowered by a single atomic bomb?

Could a single atomic bomb destroy the Negative Barrier, or a dome that Thor, and a Skrull Nuke couldn't scratch?

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Anyone under thanos should get vaporized. By the way black bolt never used his scream to the maximum. He use it particially and destroyed and entire city but it wasnt his best scream.

When he use it on people he just whisper. He whispered with gladiator and dont say that superman is more durable than glads because both have done some amazing things with there durability. Gladiator did fly out of a blast that was stated could destroy a universe unfazed.

A whisper knocked hulk out, almost killed apocalypse, koed magneto with his forcefield up, etc.....

A full scream would kill superman plus everything around him. A whisper to the ear should temporarily knock him the hell out.
thanos gets his A$$ vaporized too theres nuthin special about his durability its metahuman at best

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thanos gets his A$$ vaporized too theres nuthin special about his durability its metahuman at best
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thanos gets his A$$ vaporized too theres nuthin special about his durability its metahuman at best
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Silver Banshee's Scream is actual sound and is highly Supernatural. they aren't even the same at all. BB's full blast scream would hurt Superman. That's about it. Won't Ko him. Superman's invulnerability is probably the closest to Thanos' own on the hero side besides captain marvel's.


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What do you take me for, Trickster?
Just don't start saying you're going to scanblitz Thanos haters.

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Silver Banshee's Scream is actual sound and is highly Supernatural. they aren't even the same at all. BB's full blast scream would hurt Superman. That's about it. Won't Ko him. Superman's invulnerability is probably the closest to Thanos' own on the hero side besides captain marvel's.


Dont agree. I dont think equus on his best day could harm thanos like he did superman. I dont think that general zod could one punch thanos and break his jaw. I dont think wonder woman on her best day could break thanos ribs. I dont think that sharpnel would ever make thanos bleed from the mouth. I dont think that a member from the fatal five could ever blow the ground from under thanos making him bleed from the mouth and nose. I dont think that a ship would give thanos bruises and black eyes. I dont think that captain marvel would ever one punch thanos koing him with a single punch.


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Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Just don't start saying you're going to scanblitz Thanos haters.


Given the crap I have to deal with the Apocalypse haters, (which is about half the board stick out tongue ) I'd think you'd cut me some slack.

Question. What does Equus have that makes his cutting Supes, not PIS? K-nite? strength feats, etc? Because I never saw anything from him that puts him on Superman's level.


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Dont agree. I dont think equus on his best day could harm thanos like he did superman. I dont think that general zod could one punch thanos and break his jaw. I dont think wonder woman on her best day could break thanos ribs. I dont think that sharpnel would ever make thanos bleed from the mouth. I dont think that a member from the fatal five could ever blow the ground from under thanos making him bleed from the mouth and nose. I dont think that a ship would give thanos bruises and black eyes. I dont think that captain marvel would ever one punch thanos koing him with a single punch.


Wonder Woman and Superman have both held black holes in thier hands. And yet a black hole nearly killed Thanos. also have to realize that DC heroes generally operate on a whole other power lvl. It is even stated in the CANON jla avengers book. Thanos in DC wouldn't even be as strong as Despero if you ask me. The dials go up to Eleven in DC. now chew on that. when you show me Three marvel heroes towing a planet, let me know.


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Wonder Woman and Superman have both held black holes in thier hands. And yet a black hole nearly killed Thanos. also have to realize that DC heroes generally operate on a whole other power lvl. It is even stated in the CANON jla avengers book. Thanos in DC wouldn't even be as strong as Despero if you ask me. The dials go up to Eleven in DC. now chew on that. when you show me Three marvel heroes towing a planet, let me know.


When you show me one dc character destroying a planet with there fist then you call me. Marvel and dc are equal in power. There is nothing stated to prove different.

Thor have destroyed planets under his own power. Beta ray bill has destroyed planets. Gladiator has also done the same, damn, gladiator has moved planets under his own power but you have superman needing the aid of wonder woman and martian manhunter to move a planet.

Now I would like for you to put up some scans of superman STANDING (NOT FLYING THRU A MOON) on top of a planet destroying it, he never did it. I can put up a scan from each doing what i just advised you of.


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By the way superman cant move no planet. He had to sundip in order to move war world. Damn some people dont know what they are talking about. The sad thing about it was that war world was the size of pluto, not even close to the size of earth and he had to sun dip but gladiator has done those feats under his own power.


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When you show me one dc character destroying a planet with there fist then you call me. Marvel and dc are equal in power. There is nothing stated to prove different.

Thor have destroyed planets under his own power. Beta ray bill has destroyed planets. Gladiator has also done the same, damn, gladiator has moved planets under his own power but you have superman needing the aid of wonder woman and martian manhunter to move a planet.

Now I would like for you to put up some scans of superman STANDING (NOT FLYING THRU A MOON) on top of a planet destroying it, he never did it. I can put up a scan from each doing what i just advised you of.


the Characters in marvel who have destroyed planets have one, destroyed smaller planets from what I have seen, than earth, and two, used some kind of weapon or energy. I'm sure Superman or wonderwoman can move the earth too if they weren't pulling AGAINST the sun's gravity. would be easy to move it in another direction. We dont' know how big the star gladiator was pulling against, or the mass of the planet, or which way. And yes, Even captain america said that DC heroes where generally more powerful. So just let that one go.


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By the way superman cant move no planet. He had to sundip in order to move war world. Damn some people dont know what they are talking about. The sad thing about it was that war world was the size of pluto, not even close to the size of earth and he had to sun dip but gladiator has done those feats under his own power.


You do realize that Pluto has no mass, and that war world has many many lvls in it with all kinds of weapons and such. it's actually very very dense and heavy. Size and mass dont' always equate.


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When you show me one dc character destroying a planet with there fist then you call me. Marvel and dc are equal in power. There is nothing stated to prove different.

Thor have destroyed planets under his own power. Beta ray bill has destroyed planets. Gladiator has also done the same, damn, gladiator has moved planets under his own power but you have superman needing the aid of wonder woman and martian manhunter to move a planet.

Now I would like for you to put up some scans of superman STANDING (NOT FLYING THRU A MOON) on top of a planet destroying it, he never did it. I can put up a scan from each doing what i just advised you of.
As much as I don't agree with previous statements, I completely agree with you here.


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