Robert Horry says the new guys beat the old guys!

i actually agree with BOTH of you. the nba DOES have a much greater emphasis on defense -- far greater than those laker's teams emphasized, and even the celts.

i also don't think the gap in a series would be as great as some do, and i could see the spurs taking a series from either one.

baseball is almost impossible to compare. you have the mound being lowered, parks getting smaller, (how many more HR's would mantle have hit if the dimensions at yankee stadium had NOT been nearly 500' in a couple parts??) specialization of both pitching and defense (as well as offense in the AL in the form of the DH). then on top of that we have the steroid disaster that is inflating numbers like crazy. could the 1927 yankees win a world series today?? hard to imagine, but it's a HELL of a lot more possible than saying a football or bastketball team of even FORTY years ago could possibly compete with today's teams.

Why is everyone forgetting all of the recent rule changes when comparing all this stuff?

I mention that stuff all the time seeing as I hate the NBA's ban on defense around the perimeter *coughpayton>nashcough*.

Man, you ****ing hate Nash dont ya.....

Yesh, thank god he didnt win the MVP this year......

While athleticism can help in the debate on which team would win, it wouldnt help on this one. The Spurs rely heavily on talent and experience. Look at their team. It definitely does not rely on athleticism like the Suns or Dallas. A lot of their players are old veterans. Not to mention their stars, like Duncan and Ginobli are not known for athleticism. Duncan is good because of his fundamental grasp of the game and Ginobli because of his toughness.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Man, you ****ing hate Nash dont ya.....

Yesh, thank god he didnt win the MVP this year......

Its more that I hate the anti-defense rule changes that shot Nash up from barely an all-star to MVP in one season.

Originally posted by Myth
Its more that I hate the anti-defense rule changes that shot Nash up from barely an all-star to MVP in one season.

Add to that the fact that they never, EVER call carrying (Nash, Wade, Lebron are just a few) anymore, the bullshit offense fouls (Shaq isn't slower, he can't back down without them screaming foul; he elbowed Mutumbo in the eye many times in the 2001 Finals and Mutumbo was the one getting the foul called on him!), the flopping (Ginobli is tough? Get the **** outta here), so on and so forth...

It's not even the same damn sport

Originally posted by chithappens
Add to that the fact that they never, EVER call carrying (Nash, Wade, Lebron are just a few) anymore, the bullshit offense fouls (Shaq isn't slower, he can't back down without them screaming foul; he elbowed Mutumbo in the eye many times in the 2001 Finals and Mutumbo was the one getting the foul called on him!), the flopping (Ginobli is tough? Get the **** outta here), so on and so forth...

It's not even the same damn sport

This is new?
Bill Lambier used to flop all the time, so did John Stockton. Besides Flopping doesn't mean your not tough, it means your smart enough to use the rules to reduce your opponents possessions. Flopping isn't new they been doing it a while now. I'll agree about the offensive fouls but I think people are polishing a turd when they reminisce about the "good old days". They think about their favorite games and forget that the majority of the games not played by Micheal Jordan didn't look all that special.

Get to carrying the ball, get to the zone, get to forgotten fundamentals... you are leaving out a lot.

carrying IS awful. no one was allowed to carry more often or take more steps than jordan in his prime. it was sickening. i think jordan, more than anyone, was responsible for the whole 'superstars get special ref treatment' in games.

it would be interesting to see some of the current teams and superstars FORCED to play by the more 'old school' rules.

Originally posted by leonidas
horry ticked some people off with these comments. what do you think about them? ARE today's athletes so much better than the athletes of just 20-25 years ago?

in horry's defense, he's been around a long time, and does know a thing or 2 about championships. still, his comments are a little . . . surpising to say the least. 🙂

I'd say he knows a thing or 7 about championships, actually.