Z (Tenchi Muyo) vs Dark Schneider (Bastard!)

Started by Endless Mike5 pages

I already debunked this. The power that took down the sub - LHW (not the actual Light Hawk Wings) was a special dimensional phenomenon that was only visible to Washu (due to her Chousein nature) and was linked to the Counter-Actor.

Dark Schneider recovered from an attack from Fallen Uriel, who destroyed a galaxy on - panel, and then summoned the Dragon Knight and destroyed the dimension they were in, and kept fighting in another dimension and beat him.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I already debunked this. The power that took down the sub - LHW (not the actual Light Hawk Wings) was a special dimensional phenomenon that was only visible to Washu (due to her Chousein nature) and was linked to the Counter-Actor.

Dark Schneider recovered from an attack from Fallen Uriel, who destroyed a galaxy on - panel, and then summoned the Dragon Knight and destroyed the dimension they were in, and kept fighting in another dimension and beat him.

1. You didn't debunk anything because you aren't using CANON. In the Third True Novel, "Washu," in which Washu and Naja Akara study an perplexing event in which a group of space pirates destroyed a royal ship using a Dyson Sphere type weapon. The Sphere contained within it a star, and used that star to power the weapon used to destroy the royal ship. The Counter-Actor was never mentioned Washu never stated any of that after watching the tape.

The Power of the STAR broke through Light Hawk Wing!! CANON FACT.

Post The scans of Dark Uriel blowing up a galaxy please???

Anyone else got the scans?

Honestly, just stop it. I've already debunked this shit. I've shown you the scans back at Naruto forums but you just said they were translated wrong (while offering absolutely no proof whatsoever for this statement).

Z wins, and either of these characters stomp all over any DBZ character.

Direct statement from the author, Masaki Kajishima:

14. About the secret of Ko-oh-yoku (Wings of hawk of light?).

Answer:
It is a manifestation of God's aura.

More details ...
Ko-oh-yoku is a manifestation of God's aura and not a weapon. Although apart from Tsunami, one Tree can produce only three Ko-oh-yoku, they are enough to protect the entire ship. Ko-oh-yoku does not shut the incoming energy out but converts it to harmless one (one power exists that could pierce them but it requires huge amount of energy and a very big system).

Incidentally, to increase the number of Ko-oh-yoku by one, twice as much energy is needed. (ie, Tsunami uses 2^10/2^3 = 2^7 = 128 times as much as energy.)

This one power he refers to is the power of the Chousein, or similar cosmic power. Ryoko's gems, which held Washu's Chousein power, could be harnessed this way.

So just stop already.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Honestly, just stop it. I've already debunked this shit. I've shown you the scans back at Naruto forums but you just said they were translated wrong (while offering absolutely no proof whatsoever for this statement).

Z wins, and either of these characters stomp all over any DBZ character.

Direct statement from the author, Masaki Kajishima:

This one power he refers to is the power of the Chousein, or similar cosmic power. Ryoko's gems, which held Washu's Chousein power, could be harnessed this way.

So just stop already.

Wrong Mike..... Post the Japanese RAW scans of the Galaxy buster?

Yes Mike, I know about that LHW info, and the big energy and a very big system WAS A STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!............

Where do the royal trees get their power?

All of the royal trees obtain their power via subspace from the original tree Tsunami, which contains all of Tsunami's Choushin powers. Tsunami's tree offspring are known as 1st-generation trees. The 1st-generation tree's offspring are known as 2nd-generation trees. 2nd-generation trees produce 3rd-generation trees and 3rd-generation tree's produce 4th-generation trees. I have no information of tree's beyond the 4th generation. 1st- and 2nd-generation trees have the ability to generate Light Hawk Wings, a manifestation of the Choushin power which are used primarily for defense. 3rd- and 4th-generation trees cannot produce Light Hawk Wings on their own, but can combine their powers to produce them.

How powerful are the royal trees and Jurai powers in general? What are the greatest feats of power?

A single 4th- or 5th-generation ship is more than a match for any vessel that any other space-faring nation can build. 6th- and 7th-generation Royal Trees can power a colony by themselves. It takes a big power supply equal to that of a star to overwhelm a light-hawk wing

This happened in the Third Novel!!^^^

DBZ would hit Both Dark Schneider and Z with a planet destroying blast in ONE SHOT and DIE.

Just stop trolling. He was referring to Washu's gems (which contained Chousein power) that Kagato hooked up to his ship. That info you are quoting is from a non - canon fan site.

The incident you are mentioning involved power from the Counter - Actor. Only Washu could see it due to her Chousein nature. Light Hawk Wings multiply any conventional attack or defense by 0. Brute force is useless against them. Tenchi was caught in a black hole and even beyond the event horizon, where the forces are infinite and require infinite durability to survive, his LHWs activated, negated the time dilation and the gravity, and escaped. When Tokimi tried to stop Z from attacking Tenchi, he stated that the power to kill him would shatter the third dimension (universe) and she agreed. She had no reason to lie or be wrong about this due to her cosmic senses and the fact that she actually created the multiverse, and she was attempting to stop Z, and would have if she wasn't restrained by the Counter-Actor.

Dark Schneider was resisting planet - destroying energies way back when he fought Konron, by the time he was fighting Uriel they were destroying planets just by flying past them. The scans were shown to you, you just ignored them and claimed it never happened. Dark Schneider fought Fallen Uriel who destroyed an entire galaxy and won. None of that even matters because DS can't die unless his Eternal Atoms, which exist in 3 separate planes of existence, are destroyed.

Just stop trolling.

BTW, Z easily blocked simultaneous attacks from a fleet of hundreds of top - of - the - line Galaxy Police ships, and considering that even the weaker ships in the Tenchiverse, such as the Chobimaru (which was purchased by Mihoshi's brother as as personal vessel), can one - shot planets easily, your argument is obviously wrong. He even blocked one of the beams before he raised his LHWs!

He also blocked Ryo-Ohki's attack with one hand, the same attack that completely gutted and overwhelmed the Chobimaru previously.

mike. i respect ur info. i do. but ur a dick.

not only do u discredit something before u think about it. ur way too sarcastic.

1. No you are trolling! The ONLY BIG SUPPLY OF POWER WAS THE HUGE SYSTEM OF A STAR!!! That is what PIRECED through a LHW!!! That is canon.

2. LHW does not multiply attacks by Zero that is YOUR FANBOYISH statement

3. Nowhere does it state in episode 19 it took the power to shatter aq dimension to kill Z, that is Bullocks!

4. It was ALREAY confirmed by Noi-Noi that DS has NEVER taken any planet destroyiong attacks. You haven't shown anything.

Please Post the scans to back up YOUR trolling at least.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
BTW, Z easily blocked simultaneous attacks from a fleet of hundreds of top - of - the - line Galaxy Police ships, and considering that even the weaker ships in the Tenchiverse, such as the Chobimaru (which was purchased by Mihoshi's brother as as personal vessel), can one - shot planets easily, your argument is obviously wrong. He even blocked one of the beams before he raised his LHWs!.

Wrong, Mike this is where you a wrong!

Only a Chobimaru cannon could destroy a planet and Tenchi NEEDED SIX...YES...SIX LHWS to block the blast!!! LOL, he even got his LHW's OVERCOME STILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DBZ > Tenchi Muyo.

Dude, stop lying and stop trolling please.

i agree mike just hates u now phen. i mean u do sometimes be a dick and just yell IT IS CANON. but now its to the point where mike just thinks everything u post makes u a troll.

Mike Hates the truth!!! That is why he can't stand me.

lol mabe. i dunno, but he definitely has it out for ya bro.

Because you are a troll. And It's a bit difficult to be civil with someone so ridiculously deluded. The Chobimaru was a weak ship, not even as powerful as a third generation Juraian treeship. Tenchi could barely control his powers at the time yet he still blocked its attack. He was not "overwhelmed".

The Counter-Actor's power penetrated the sub - Light Hawk Wing (which is weaker than the actual Light Hawk Wings, and is up all the time unlike the real LHWs). Only Washu noticed this. The power Kajishima was referring to was the power of the Chousein. The system he was referring to was Kagato's ship which used Washu's gems. Otherwise why would he mentione "one power" as in "one specific power" instead of simply "enough power"?

When Z attacked Tenchi and Tokimi blocked him, she threatened to destroy him for interrupting his plans. He stated that if she did that, the power required to kill him would shatter the third dimension (the universe). She agreed and stopped her attack, and was then blocked by the Counter - Actor and Tsunami.

As for Dark Schneider, I already showed you the scans, you just ignored them.

I don't know why I'm even debating with you, it's obvious you'll never accept any evidence that I give you.

Stop trolling already.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Because you are a troll. And It's a bit difficult to be civil with someone so ridiculously deluded. The Chobimaru was a weak ship, not even as powerful as a third generation Juraian treeship. Tenchi could barely control his powers at the time yet he still blocked its attack. He was not "overwhelmed".

The Counter-Actor's power penetrated the sub - Light Hawk Wing (which is weaker than the actual Light Hawk Wings, and is up all the time unlike the real LHWs). Only Washu noticed this. The power Kajishima was referring to was the power of the Chousein. The system he was referring to was Kagato's ship which used Washu's gems. Otherwise why would he mentione "one power" as in "one specific power" instead of simply "enough power"?

When Z attacked Tenchi and Tokimi blocked him, she threatened to destroy him for interrupting his plans. He stated that if she did that, the power required to kill him would shatter the third dimension (the universe). She agreed and stopped her attack, and was then blocked by the Counter - Actor and Tsunami.

As for Dark Schneider, I already showed you the scans, you just ignored them.

I don't know why I'm even debating with you, it's obvious you'll never accept any evidence that I give you.

Stop trolling already.

*Sigh* You LIE like a RUG Endless LIES.

Tenchi used SIX LHW's to shield the Earth when the Chobimaru attacked in OVA 3 +1, Episode 20 - Third Series Plus 1 .

http://tmau.fateback.com/episodes/ova/20/0001.html

Here was the result!
http://tmau.fateback.com/episodes/ova/20/0016.html

Tenchi's SIX LHW were OVERCOME by the planet destroying attack they do NOT multiply attacks by zero. That is canon.

Post the scans of Urile Destroying a Galaxy on-panel, please?

Anyone else can support Mike about his Dark Schneider claims? He is obviously wrong about Tenchi muyo???

Not to mention DS can only fight and move at the speed of sound.

Which is a complete lie, since he was moving so fast that people who reached earth from the Galactic core (28000 light - years away) in only 4 years couldn't even keep up with him. He was hopping in - between dimensions from Hell to Earth when fighting Fallen Uriel.

And you're taking screenshots out of context again. That second one was from a flashback when his mother was taking care of him, before she died, and which took place before the first OVA episode and before his powers even appeared. You're just a liar and a troll, so cut it out.

I showed you the DS scans on Naruto forums, you just ignored them and said they didn't count.

Did you miss the part where Tokimi and Washu tore a huge hole in the galaxy just as a side - effect of stopping each others' actions and Z and Tenchi were completely unharmed?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Which is a complete lie, since he was moving so fast that people who reached earth from the Galactic core (28000 light - years away) in only 4 years couldn't even keep up with him. He was hopping in - between dimensions from Hell to Earth when fighting Fallen Uriel.And you're taking screenshots out of context again. That second one was from a flashback when his mother was taking care of him, before she died, and which took place before the first OVA episode and before his powers even appeared. You're just a liar and a troll, so cut it out.I showed you the DS scans on Naruto forums, you just ignored them and said they didn't count.Did you miss the part where Tokimi and Washu tore a huge hole in the galaxy just as a side - effect of stopping each others' actions and Z and Tenchi were completely unharmed?

Endless Mike LIES again, here is another scratch on your record.

1.DS Speed....http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0003qt3.jpg

2. DS didn't shatter reality by the way it was the "walls of Hell!" 🙄

3.Tenchi WITH SIX LIGHT HAWK WINGS GOT PWNED by a planet destroying attack! CANON FACT.

Post the scans of Uriel because you are failing real bad, you troll.