Originally posted by ensatsu-ken
He may be smarter, but I haven't really seen him use a whole lot of strategy in any of his fights. Either way, Kurama is a brilliant strategist, and he has more than just 1 way of taking Seshomaru down. Once again, I'm not saying who would win or not, but it is a fact that Kurama is one of the more underestimated characters of Yu Yu Hakusho (in fact, the only person who gets underestimated more than him, is Kuwabara).
Originally posted by Akuki
Oh believe me, I know Kurama is good, he's one of my top 5 favorite characters. Kuwabara's problem is that he just doesn't have the skill or speed to match his sword's ability. I was just pointing out that a lot of people are greatly underestimating Sesshomaru since they were only seeing his early fights with Inuyasha which he basically had to lose for plot reasons.
I know what you mean. In some instances, it just felt plain rediculous how Inu-Yasha was able to even come out alive after fighting Seshomaru. But, I don't really read the manga (which I'm aware is still continuing), so I ultimately can't make a judgement in this match-up. Also I was really only making sure that Kurama wasn't getting underestimated by people in this match-up. I can tell that you at least know what their is to know about both characters, to make a fair judgement between the 2. However, I was initially just explaining that none of the beginning reasons for why people thought Seshomaru would win, were things that put him above the level of Kurama.
My point with Kuwabara, is that he is seen as a weakling by almost everybody, mainly because he is a comic relief character, and because he's the weakest of the 4 main characters (that of course being Yusuke, Kurama, Hiei, and Kuwabara himself). However, it has been universally accepted that he was an A class figher by the end of the series, which makes him stronger than Toguro. He seems slow in comparison to the other characters, but if you think about it, to be an A class demon, he at least has to be faster than weaker demons (who were still fairly fast; such as Hiei as a C class demon for example). If you look at it in that aspect, he has "enough" speed to keep up with fast opponents. Also, his high level of spiritual awareness, and that extremely souped up Spirit Sword that he develops (the one that can cut through dimensional barriers), make him a lot stronger and more capable than most people make him out to be.
Sesshomaru got this i doubt Kurama can even fly. Sesshomaru is not even classified as yokai but as a daiyokai a great demon. As for speed
"He can also instantaneously close long distances without being detected by others." As for weapons Bakusaiga keeps destroying its opponent after they have been hit.
Originally posted by silverstream
Sesshomaru got this i doubt Kurama can even fly. Sesshomaru is not even classified as yokai but as a daiyokai a great demon. As for speed
"He can also instantaneously close long distances without being detected by others." As for weapons Bakusaiga keeps destroying its opponent after they have been hit.
Question: Just out of curiosity, have you seen the Three Kings arc of YYH? And no need to take this as an offensive question (I'm not trying to imply that you are wrong, since I honestly don't know what Seshomaru is capable of in the current manga). I was just wondering if you have seen Kurama at the end of the series, because most people tend to underrate Kurama.
Also, just because he is able to fly, does not mean that he has necessarily won the match. Many opponents who have been able to fly, have been taken down by fighters who are not able to fly, in various different anime before, including Yu Yu Hakusho (a prime example being the fight between Yusuke and Jin). Also, speed won't mean that much if Kurama sprouts a forest around himself. Some of the trees were impossible for even Shigure to cut down (and he is an S- class demon; which is saying a lot). Also, Kurama has been known to overcome opponents with many fighting advantages over him, abillity-wise, because he is a brilliant strategist. All I'm doing here, is just making sure that Kurama isn't being underrated by anyone. So just don't mistake this for me trying to argue that he would win, because I honestly do not know. All I do know, is that Inu-Yasha characters tend to get overrated quite a lot, whereas certain YYH characters have been known to be quite underrated sometimes.
Originally posted by ensatsu-ken
Question: Just out of curiosity, have you seen the Three Kings arc of YYH? And no need to take this as an offensive question (I'm not trying to imply that you are wrong, since I honestly don't know what Seshomaru is capable of in the current manga). I was just wondering if you have seen Kurama at the end of the series, because most people tend to underrate Kurama.Also, just because he is able to fly, does not mean that he has necessarily won the match. Many opponents who have been able to fly, have been taken down by fighters who are not able to fly, in various different anime before, including Yu Yu Hakusho (a prime example being the fight between Yusuke and Jin). Also, speed won't mean that much if Kurama sprouts a forest around himself. Some of the trees were impossible for even Shigure to cut down (and he is an S- class demon; which is saying a lot). Also, Kurama has been known to overcome opponents with many fighting advantages over him, abillity-wise, because he is a brilliant strategist. All I'm doing here, is just making sure that Kurama isn't being underrated by anyone. So just don't mistake this for me trying to argue that he would win, because I honestly do not know. All I do know, is that Inu-Yasha characters tend to get overrated quite a lot, whereas certain YYH characters have been known to be quite underrated sometimes.
youko kurama can't even be compared to sesshomaru because sesshomaru would kill him just like swating a fly he has 500x better senses faster more way more powerful then him you talk about different classes when sesshomaru can't even be classes in such low ranks as S class besides he never faced a opponent that can bring out his true power what you see is only a mere fraction THAT"S if you watched it
Ladies and Gentlemen lets make this clear. Sesshomaru is a Taiyouki! A Demon LORD! Kurama might be impressive but he is simply not as powerful as Sesshomaru. Also, since most of you have yet to watch all of the Inuyasha movies and the show you wouldn't know how powerful Sesshomaru is. He is a military lord as well so OBVIOUSLY he is a tactician. This forum also seems to be dominated by Yu Yu Hakusho fans so its not a real equal amount of ideas or vote. Im not going to fight over this because all I keep thinking about is how those two are so amazing! They would make an awsome team! Don't you agree?
Originally posted by Pogue DanteSo being a Taiyoukai means he is stronger than Kurama? Lol GTFO.
Ladies and Gentlemen lets make this clear. Sesshomaru is a Taiyouki! A Demon LORD! Kurama might be impressive but he is simply not as powerful as Sesshomaru. Also, since most of you have yet to watch all of the Inuyasha movies and the show you wouldn't know how powerful Sesshomaru is. He is a military lord as well so OBVIOUSLY he is a tactician. This forum also seems to be dominated by Yu Yu Hakusho fans so its not a real equal amount of ideas or vote. Im not going to fight over this because all I keep thinking about is how those two are so amazing! They would make an awsome team! Don't you agree?
Originally posted by Pogue DanteIsn't Kurama > Hiei? I mean hasn't Hiei said something about not wanting to fight Kurama before?
No Sesshomaru doesn't have to be a Taiyouki to kick Kurama's ass. I mean Kurama is like the THIRD strongest character in Yu Yu Hakusho next to Yusuke and Hiei. Sesshomaru is second to NO ONE. Haha.
Anyway..Kurama kicks Sesshomaru's butt.
If both Sesshomaru and Kurama met after the end of both their respective anime Yoko Kurama would Triumph. Sesshomaru would be quite a challenge for the spirit fox but because Kurama walks around in human form I believe Sesshomaru would underestimate him as just a half breed at most from his scent. Kurama would then use his opponents ignorance of his truest power to emerge victorious though this would be quite a battle.
On another note I would like to see a tag battle; Yusuke and Yoko Kurama Vs. InuYasha and Sesshomaru.