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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jaden101
i wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that inheritance tax was recently voted the most unpopular tax in the UK
another reactionary policy from another reactionary party
Oct 5th, 2007 07:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
No, I think you said that they are called liberal indicates that they are most closely related with freedom.
Well, liberalism is about giving people freedom.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, liberalism is about giving people freedom.
not in this country it's not...liberal governments endorse a bigger state...more beauracracy and a higher level of state interference in peoples lives
hence its liberal governments who have imposed polices of criminalising people who spank their children...liberal governments who insist that dartboards in pubs should be surrounded by bullet proof glass to ensure no-one gets injured...liberal governments who insist that window cleaners should only work with £50,000 hydraulic lifts instead of ladders
the list is endless...liberal in the UK means less freedom for the individual
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quote: inheritance tax
shamful tax, taxation of earnings thats already been taxed , so a they get a double take of it
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, liberalism is about giving people freedom.
You do realise that republicans in the US (conservatives) used to be more for freedom than liberals. As I said, you mistake cause and effect. Liberal is just a name. If some fascists call themselves liberal it does not make them pro-freedom.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
You do realise that republicans in the US (conservatives) used to be more for freedom than liberals. As I said, you mistake cause and effect. Liberal is just a name. If some fascists call themselves liberal it does not make them pro-freedom.
Sure it does, just freedom for them not for the rest.
As for the topic, inheritance tax is the worst kind of tax out there anyway. It's complete bullshit that you would have to pay taxes over something you want to leave other people when you die.
Why the hell should the government get money after I die...
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Oct 6th, 2007 01:20 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jaden101
not in this country it's not...liberal governments endorse a bigger state...more beauracracy and a higher level of state interference in peoples lives
hence its liberal governments who have imposed polices of criminalising people who spank their children...liberal governments who insist that dartboards in pubs should be surrounded by bullet proof glass to ensure no-one gets injured...liberal governments who insist that window cleaners should only work with £50,000 hydraulic lifts instead of ladders
the list is endless...liberal in the UK means less freedom for the individual
Funny, Wikipedia dramatically disagrees. As does the libdem website.
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Oct 6th, 2007 01:49 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
Funny, Wikipedia dramatically disagrees. As does the libdem website.
you are aware that labour are a "liberal" government...so all the above stands correct
and seeing as we're talking about liberal governments...we can eliminate the liberal democrats from that discussion...haha
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Oct 6th, 2007 02:17 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jaden101
you are aware that labour are a "liberal" government...so all the above stands correct
and seeing as we're talking about liberal governments...we can eliminate the liberal democrats from that discussion...haha
The Conservative Party are also Liberal, actually. Anyway, I was refering to the US Democrats. Especially since the US is the "Land of the free".
And, nice one. I thought all Scots admire the Libdems. (JOKE)
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Oct 6th, 2007 02:29 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jaden101
you are aware that labour are a "liberal" government...so all the above stands correct
and seeing as we're talking about liberal governments...we can eliminate the liberal democrats from that discussion...haha
Once more, you are aware that Thatcher's Government was a liberal one, yes?
You've got this all backwards. In the UK, Liberal has historically meant 'free from regulation'.
You are using a US definition.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ushgarak
Once more, you are aware that Thatcher's Government was a liberal one, yes?
You've got this all backwards. In the UK, Liberal has historically meant 'free from regulation'.
You are using a US definition.
An annoying one at that.
Liberal has such a nice ring to it.
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