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Because although he hasnt shown he can exploit specific weaknesses of Knite and Red solar radiation, he has shown he can manipulate all forms of energy. And he has also shown to be able to use his Cosmic Awareness for various effects including as a danger sense, vulnerabilities, etc. And on top of all that, R-Man, whose basically just a very very very very watered down version of Genis that's only limited to radiation, exploited Hyperion's weakness very easily. Genis would be able to exploit SMP's weaknesses very easily. But really, i dont know why you guys are making such a big deal out of it because Genis could put SMP down straight-up as well.

I dont' think genis would beat SMP. It's isn't feasible. SMP is a freaking abstract like power being now adays. Nothing like his SBP days. He could cleave genis's head off before he blinks. Genis can get 2 or 3 wins.

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Which is the only reason FS didn't pwn his ass.

It had more to do with him not being the real Firestorm. eek!

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I dont' think genis would beat SMP. It's isn't feasible. SMP is a freaking abstract like power being now adays. Nothing like his SBP days. He could cleave genis's head off before he blinks. Genis can get 2 or 3 wins.

Did you just say SMP is abstract-level? HAHAHAHAHAHA! And yes he is just like his SBP days? What did he do, beat an alternate universe jobbing JLA? King Hyperion beat 5 WORLDS full of Alternate universe heroes, and although he's powerful, he's nowhere near abstract. Fly through a planet destroying it? Stardust and Hyperion have done the same thing. Hell, Terrax sliced a planet in half destroying it before. An alternate universe weaker Firelord has one shotted a planet. The Professor Hulk one-shotted an asteroid 2x the size of Earth. So tell me, what has SMP done that puts him anywhere near abstract level, or even above Insane Genis for that matter?

And Insane Genis is faster than SMP by the way. Not only can he fly at tons of times Warp speed, flying so fast he warps time and space, but he also has some spatial rift/portal powers. So yea SMP aint speed blitzing him. And unless you think SMP's fists >>> King Thor's Odinforce-backed Mjolnir, then he aint taking Genis out even if he could speedblitz him, but he cant so it doesnt matter.

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This thread is going to bring the funny.

It hasn't already?

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It had more to do with him not being the real Firestorm.

And that he had no idea how Universe Prime's K-Nite, was composed. stick out tongue

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And written correctly, SMP shouldnt last more than a page or 2 against Mxy in a fight.

If SMP overcomes him in some way then his magical resistance/immunity would be explained. It wouldn't exactly be incorrect writing.

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Just resistant to it.

I actually don't think that SMP is THAT resistant to magic.

At least not more than he is against regular energy blasts and physical force.

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It hasn't already?

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Did you just say SMP is abstract-level? HAHAHAHAHAHA! And yes he is just like his SBP days? What did he do, beat an alternate universe jobbing JLA? King Hyperion beat 5 WORLDS full of Alternate universe heroes, and although he's powerful, he's nowhere near abstract. Fly through a planet destroying it? Stardust and Hyperion have done the same thing. Hell, Terrax sliced a planet in half destroying it before. An alternate universe weaker Firelord has one shotted a planet. The Professor Hulk one-shotted an asteroid 2x the size of Earth. So tell me, what has SMP done that puts him anywhere near abstract level, or even above Insane Genis for that matter?

And Insane Genis is faster than SMP by the way. Not only can he fly at tons of times Warp speed, flying so fast he warps time and space, but he also has some spatial rift/portal powers. So yea SMP aint speed blitzing him. And unless you think SMP's fists >>> King Thor's Odinforce-backed Mjolnir, then he aint taking Genis out even if he could speedblitz him, but he cant so it doesnt matter.

It's the pwning of Mxy coming up, The ability to just fly from universe to universe with no effort, ect.

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It's the pwning of Mxy coming up, The ability to just fly from universe to universe with no effort, ect.

It hasnt even happenned, and youre using it as proof already. And even if he does, it will be a jobfest. And if you wanna go by jobbing, then Eternity jobbed to Genis. Genis beat ****ing ETERNITY. And Genis has gone from universe to universe as well without any trouble. Not only diffferent universes, but also different timelines on top of that, he's traveled to the future and past and everything as well. So again, show me what SMP has done that puts him above Insane Genis, much less puts him at Abstract-level.

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Genis beat ****ing ETERNITY.

For one,
That 'battle' took place off-panel.

Secondly,
We know Genis didn't do that by himself -- he had help, [in the form of Entropy]. smile

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Genis wins this. He could straight up beat SMP down, or exploit his weaknesses to his Knite or Red Sun easily as well.

And written correctly, SMP shouldnt last more than a page or 2 against Mxy in a fight.

SMP>>>>Sentry=Photon

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Secondly,
We know Genis didn't do that by himself -- he had help, [in the form of Entropy].

And we don't know how big a Part Entropy played in Eternity's destruction it could have been 99% ore 1%

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And we don't know how big a Part Entropy played in Eternity's destruction it could have been 99% ore 1%

that 1% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Prime
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And we don't know how big a Part Entropy played in Eternity's destruction it could have been 99% ore 1%

I'll lean towards 50% ... although on panel the arc alluded to Genis doing most of the work.

Still, even 50% would mean Genis took out HALF of the infinite prime Multiverse.

Not too surprising, Genis was destined to erase all of Marvel, (by himself)
by erasing the 616 Reality and all its connected Timelines.

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SMP>>>>Sentry = Photon = Galactus = World War Hulk

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SMP>>>>Sentry=Photon

Prove it. Provide examples of things that have actually happenned that puts him above them. And btw, Photon is superior (slightly) to Sentry.

And Genis was implied to do most of the work in the Eternity killing. He was also said by Entropy himself to provide all the power that did it. IMO, Genis destroyed him, Entropy remade him. That's how it was the way it was implied to have went. Either way, Genis did at least 50%. And destroying 50% of the Multiverse is something SMP couldnt dream of doing.

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Prove it. Provide examples of things that have actually happenned that puts him above them. And btw, Photon is superior (slightly) to Sentry.

And Genis was implied to do most of the work in the Eternity killing. He was also said by Entropy himself to provide all the power that did it. IMO, Genis destroyed him, Entropy remade him. That's how it was the way it was implied to have went. Either way, Genis did at least 50%. And destroying 50% of the Multiverse is something SMP couldnt dream of doing.

Sbp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sentry
Photon >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sentry

Im staying out of photon vs sbp thou

To many variables

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Sbp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sentry
Photon >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sentry

Im staying out of photon vs sbp thou

To many variables

Sentry IMO would give SMP a decent fight, probably beat him as well as far as im concerned. As i said, SMP hasnt done anything that Genis (Insane/Photon) or Sentry couldnt, or havent done.

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