They aint but they have spent their lives absorbin souls and power. That's gotta count for more then what Phobos can do.
Humans can vape cities and kill dinosaurs wit today's technology.
The bees live in Makai, the only souls to eat in Makai is that of the DS.
But in one move... a single slap? (not really sure, it was most likely a slap)
I doubt Pyron at full power can handle Jedah, he lacks the necessary abilities to win.
Magic can allow the user to do anything he wishes, and Pyron lacks magical abilities so he has no defense for it. Rather pyron powers up or down, he's still made of energy and Demetri has shown the capacity to absorb Pyron completely.
And Pyron has no space time powers, Belails attack would rip Pyron to shreds with great ease.
Destroy the soul with out harmin the body.
All of that means nothin if you can teleport and have inter dimensional travel abilities AND know magic.
Jedah can do the same to Pyron's army.
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Come to think of it, Jedah's group consists of Lilith, Q-Bee, the Soul Bees, the rest of the Dohma family, the lesser DS jedah has in his control as seen in his hyper combo, and he has his master too. The baby, who I think is the Majigen alone will solo Pyron if fully awakened.
Jedah can't beat Pyron alone with the restrictions of this match but Jedah's guys more than make up for that.
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2. Vape cities. Oh, and the Phobos lack souls, so they cannot be harmed by Jedah's soul powers.
3. Yeah, they use a nuke that takes a long time to make and has to be dropped, then they are out of the nuke. A Phobos can do it with one attack, and still be able to fight. Also, humans can certainly kill a dinosaur with tech, but then again a dinosaur can easily kill a group of humans as well.
4. Morrigan lives in Makai. She goes to the human world to...have sex...rofl(her "victims" die afterwards)
5. I just looked at it, it doesn't show how he's defeated, but you wanna know sumthin funny, JEDAH was defeated in that fight as well!
7. So Demitri is now omnipotent because he can do magic? ROFL. Hell, Ganondorf can do magic, can he also beat Pyron? No, that's the answer. Pyron does lack a defense against magic, that much is true, which is another defining factor in his defeat, but what good would magic do against an opponent who would throw him into the sun before he could react? Demitri has shown the ability to absorb a defeated WEAKENED Pyron completely, not a full power one, and he can't do it at the start of the fight. Pyron has energy absorption and manipulation as well, do you honestly think Demitri has more control over Pyron's body than Pyron?
Demitri has no time space powers either, yet he survived.
8. Oh, so he can attack the soul, that makes this fight closer at least, tho Pyron still mantains the speed advantage, strength advantage, power advantage, among others.
9. Pyron can tele. Possibly thru dimensions, I think DSZ said that, tho not sure. Pyron doesn't have magic, but he has vast cosmic powers.
10. Considering Pyron can actually continue to create more and more Phobos if he wished, I don't know about that. Actually, he prolly could.
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The Shintai(the baby) is not working under Jedah, and he would need a vast amount of souls(billions in fact) to wake it. Seeing as he can't soul suck, it's not happening. Rest of Dohma family? There ARE no more in the Dohma family, Jedah was the last one, Ozomu took over, and Jedah killed him and used his soul for the Majigen. Lesser DS? What, C class? Lol.....Pyron would kill them with his pinky. Hell, Pyron would destroy the earth with his pinky tip!
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2. The Phobos can not harm Jedah either. He can regenerate from anything. If Jedah could use his powers he could send'em all to another dimension in one swoop. The Bee army has gained many powers and souls over the years, unlike the Phobos who have set limits...like most weapons.
3.Point is, the humans can replicate what the Phobos do...maybe not any where near as well, but they can.
4.Morrigan has the Aensland Ring in which 1/3 of he power is sealed in, that's how she travels in and out of dimensions effortlessly. The Bees don't have the power to cross into other dimensions. They are bound to Makai.
And Morrigan doesn't have to have sex to survive, she aint that type of succubus. You seem to have decent amount knowledge on the DS so you should already know how Morrigan really survives. And what she really leaves Makai for.
5.My bad, don't really remember the endin that well (I haven't played DS in years), but you know that endin is crap on a stick.
In the comics and movies those things get killed in like one hit, by characters like J.T., Felicia, Rikuo and B.B Hood.
7. Didn't say demetri was Omnipotent, obviously not cuz he got one shot by Belial, but he has something Pyron does not, something powerful that Pyron does not have. No matter how big and powerful Pyron got, Pyron is Pyron. And the specs of the battle were never given, for all we know Demetri coulda absorbed Pyron at the start of the match
(I think a Demetri VS Pyron thread is in order)
8.As far as speed goes they are tied cuz both Jedah and Pyron can teleport, but Jedah has the edge cuz he can teleport into other dimensions. I will admit that Pyrons probably got Jedah beat in ALL the physical categories but Jedah has too many other abilities...the guy can get vaped and return.
The baby should start the match at full power and it doesn't matter if he's over or under Jedah...they are still on the same team. But I think Pryon probably would win this but I mean come'on, if a match like this is made at least reduce his size to that of his opponents, jedah really doesn't have his powers and the other guys are pretty human sized. Pyron could Just grow to the size of Jupiter and crush the battle field or throw a star at them...that's not fair at all...but I guess Pyron would win this eventually.
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2. What if he was to be disintegrated by the atom? Jedah doesn't have his powers dude. Also, the bees do have limits, come on, one limit is that they have VERY short life spans, Phobos' life span is forever.
3. Humans can replicate alot of things in different ways. They can replicate busting a planet as well with nukes in the right places.
4. There are portals all throughout Makai, the human dimension and Makai are practicly linked.
She leaves Makai to have sex, which turns her victim into a skeleton.
5. Well duh, one Phobos killing Jedah? ROFL.
6. Actually, Felicia in the OVA couldn't kill ONE Phobos. Not sure about the others you named, tho J.T. has killed many, but he is one of the stronger DSers, not quite A class tho, maybe a high B+.
7. Pyron has size, strength, speed, power output, and vast cosmic power, all of which Demitri doesn't have(well, Demitri's strength is comparable to mortal/weakened Pyron). Demitri CAN'T absorb Pyron right away, that is the thing. He had to defeat mortal Pyron first.
(I'll make it)
8. Teleing into other dimensions makes his tele superior...how exactly? Also, Pyron may be able to do that, not sure, I'll ask DSZ.
Lol, Pyron can't throw a star, he could make one and vape them with it tho.
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I think that the only way to kill Jedah is to destroy his soul, and I think his soul is immune to destruction by most other than the Gods of DS to Jedah cuz he's supposed to be some sort of Anti Christ. But the Bees can get stronger and stronger over time...the Phobos can't.
I'm not so sure about that.
Actually she probably does do the nasty but she also goes to do battle and have fun which brings pleasure and when she is pleasured her body makes some kind of liquid she drinks to sustain life.
[/B][/QUOTE] 6. Actually, Felicia in the OVA couldn't kill ONE Phobos. Not sure about the others you named, tho J.T. has killed many, but he is one of the stronger DSers, not quite A class tho, maybe a high B+.[/B][/QUOTE] J.T. has the potential to be on Demetri level, the Kruetz family (J.T's father's side of the family) were rivals wit the Maximovs. They lacked magic and other demonic abilities but had some kind of instant death moves and they had unrivaled raw power. I think the leader was a dragon and J.T.'s grand father.
I'm pretty sure that Demetri's demon and magic powers could replicate what Pyron can do wit cosmic powers. We don't really know that, Demetri was powered down as well, he didn't even fight in his true form.
Cuz he can go to places Pyron can't He can't, but he can communicate through other dimensions which is what he did to lure out the DS.
Why not? If he can grow to a size similar to that of a star, whats stopin him from usein his chest beam to push a smaller star/dwarf star into a planet at break neck speeds?
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1. Proof? I have never heard such a thing. Jedah is not some Beyonder type character, he has limits.
2. How much tho? And ever thot they did it for food, not power? Also, with a lifespan that is less than ten years I think it was, you will not be getting much stronger.
3. I am. How do you think all the DSers get out of Makai? They don't all have Aensland rings.
4.
5. I don't know if he could get Demitri level by genetics alone, he is only half DSer you know.
6. List of things Pyron can do that Demitri can't:
Create something from nothing
Give the thing you created a sentient, almost humanlike mind with a purpose.
See Earth from the other side of the universe.
Rub earth out with his pinky-tip.
Also, what about the other things I listed he has over Demitri?
7. He was at at least 80%, prolly more. His human form and demon form only differ in appearance and a few things like claws, not power.
8. So he can run away? That's nice.
9. Hmm...I will ask DSZ about it.
10. Well, that is maybe possible, I thot you meant he would grab and throw a star lol.
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I see Jedah taking this after a hard fought battle. Yea....
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Well how else would Jedah die completely? He got erased and came back?
Idk. It is for food but I doubt they eat souls but nothin happens, but when the likes of Demetri, Jedah and Morrigan do it, they gain power.
They don't all leave Makai though, a large chunk of DS takes place in Makai. Not even Jedah has crossed into the human world, Canon.
A purely evil human can survive in Makai and live amongst the DS. Not sayin that they'll be as powerful though.
J.T. has potential
That's another thing that makes this fight uneven, not only can Pyon make Phobos but he can make other evolved Hellstomians/Heralds from his frickin finger tips.
I totally disagree, yo.
No, he can run to the Majigen and attack from there.
If he dwarfs it, he probably could.
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i did not just do it, i created that match with those rules, ime not changing the rules every time someone does not like something with their character
giving Jedah half of his powers means an instant win against Pyron and most enemies wheras giving pyron his powers is not the same..
I just realized what you said. Has it ever occurred to you that people can change their minds? Also, I bet you don't even know what the hell Jedah says when he's commin' down from the light. Since I know you don't, I'll tell you.
It translates exactly to "My World, Any Soul I Shall Hunt/Take!"
Basically meanin', "I shall take any soul that appears before me in my world."
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Nope, some folks at SRK got me to join Unity a few weeks back and Vasili10 happened to be there. I PMed'im some questions about DS and SF and answered them. What Jedah says in his boss mode intro was one of the questions.
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