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Which he is.

You just said theres no feats that put him above DD.

OK I am done for now. That one comment alone. sick

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In this fight, Spider-Man thinks DD is someone else, so he isn't holding back. It's one of the few instances (maybe the only one) where we can accurately gauge them in respect to one another because he isn't pulling his punches.

Class 10-15 and pre-cognition >>> peak human and acrobatic.

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your scann dident work. also they had two intire fights with spiderman not holding back becuases he was either enrage or though DD was a robot.

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your scann dident work. also they had two intire fights with spiderman not holding back becuases he was either enrage or though DD was a robot.

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Which he is.

You just said theres no feats that put him above DD.

OK I am done for now. That one comment alone.

Yes there arnt to my knowledge.

I know there arnt for logan or capt.

so if DD was as fast as them then he be as fast a spiderman no?

Dec 5th, 2007 10:34 PM

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DD respect thread first page.

Dec 5th, 2007 10:35 PM

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your scann dident work. also they had two intire fights with spiderman not holding back becuases he was either enrage or though DD was a robot.

It works for me, and Spidey owns him in 1 punch that DD is helpless to dodge (and he says so in his own words). So that is about as clear as you can get in terms of on-panel evidence. If you still disagree at this point, I'll just have to chalk it up to stubbornness and leave the thread since I'm obviously not making progress.

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your scann dident work. also they had two intire fights with spiderman not holding back becuases he was either enrage or though DD was a robot.

THATS the scan I have been talking about.

He even states he moves faster than most people think.

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digi your scann is not the entire fight though.........

Dec 5th, 2007 10:38 PM

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It works for me, and Spidey owns him in 1 punch that DD is helpless to dodge (and he says so in his own words). So that is about as clear as you can get in terms of on-panel evidence. If you still disagree at this point, I'll just have to chalk it up to stubbornness and leave the thread since I'm obviously not making progress.

I have to do the same. I mean its on panel for him.

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It works for me, and Spidey owns him in 1 punch that DD is helpless to dodge (and he says so in his own words). So that is about as clear as you can get in terms of on-panel evidence. If you still disagree at this point, I'll just have to chalk it up to stubbornness and leave the thread since I'm obviously not making progress.

I got it to work.

now can you please show the rest of the fight. Becuases I know it did not end with that hit.

Im pritty sure I read this issue and it a longer fight then your making it sound.

Dec 5th, 2007 10:40 PM

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http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/...14fight1rz5.jpg
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Spider-Man VS Daredevil while Spidey�s brain is clouded by hypnosis. Daredevil admits that he would have no chance under normal conditions.

Thanks DC.

Hes not even peak and he outclasses him.

Seems you also forgot what happened ay Hammmer because you didn't tell us he wasn't peak.

I think this ends that argument.

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Dec 5th, 2007 10:41 PM

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Spider-Man's obviously faster than Daredevil, but I don't think the difference is nearly as big as most people make it out to be.

Even in that cited instance where Spidey punched DD, he isn't "one-shotted" at all. In fact, he continues to fight until he manages to snap Spidey back to his senses, which tells me he either rolled with the punch or he took a Class 10 ten punch straight to the face and shrugged it off.

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http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/...14fight1rz5.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/...14fight2bp4.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/...14fight3fa7.jpg

Spider-Man VS Daredevil while Spidey�s brain is clouded by hypnosis. Daredevil admits that he would have no chance under normal conditions.

Thanks DC.

Hes not even peak and he outclasses him.

Seems you also forgot what happened ay Hammmer because you didn't tell us he wasn't peak.

I think this ends that argument.

I forgot what happen.

actaully spiderman physically is still the same.........so his speed should not be effected which was the agruement.

actaully this helped my arguement. You said batman could not react to spiderman becuases DD can't...........but DD does and did in that very issue.

also wonder why digi said DD was one shotted? wierd

Dec 5th, 2007 10:53 PM

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Spider-Man's obviously faster than Daredevil, but I don't think the difference is nearly as big as most people make it out to be.

Even in that cited instance where Spidey punched DD, he isn't "one-shotted" at all. In fact, he continues to fight until he manages to snap Spidey back to his senses, which tells me he either rolled with the punch or he took a Class 10 ten punch straight to the face and shrugged it off.

I agree

Dec 5th, 2007 10:57 PM

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Spider-Man's obviously faster than Daredevil, but I don't think the difference is nearly as big as most people make it out to be.

Even in that cited instance where Spidey punched DD, he isn't "one-shotted" at all. In fact, he continues to fight until he manages to snap Spidey back to his senses, which tells me he either rolled with the punch or he took a Class 10 ten punch straight to the face and shrugged it off.

More likely than not it would be him rolling with the punch,

Dec 5th, 2007 11:00 PM

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One-shotted was the wrong word to use, but I didn't have the whole fight for reference.

But the point of the thread is speed. And Matt tells the reader himself that he can't even begin to dodge Spidey. If that isn't proof of my point, I don't know what is.

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actaully he said that punch. refferring to that single instances. If he ment at all then he would not have been shown dooging spiderman in the next pannel.

Dec 5th, 2007 11:06 PM

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More likely than not it would be him rolling with the punch,

Which is pretty much my main point. Even when Daredevil is going on about how he's no match for Peter's speed, he still manages to at least roll with his attacks for minimal damage and then proceed to tangle with Spidey in that fight. Sure he admits Spidey's not at peak efficiency, but does any one think Peter's speed was halved or something?

This is just the kind of fight I generally see happening between the two even in a forum match- Spider-Man outclassing Matt in speed but Matt still able to keep up- rather than the popular opinion that Spidey will blitz him into the ground.

Dec 5th, 2007 11:11 PM