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Csdabest
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Overpowered no. And as you saw Dante was able to slice the bullets in half showing a speed and accuracy feat right there. Virgil outmanuevered Dante blade. Also lol at cloud overpowering Sephy, Sephy was knocking him around the whole battle feild.


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I would like to point out that strength is not the only factor in striking force. There are four, strength, speed, technique, and mass.


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Strength,and speed cloud doesnt have over Dante. Maybe technique/skill. Mass is a given but i say dante has that. Dont say Cloud blocks bullets. he doesnt. His sword is bigger than himall he has to do his hold it infront of him and it will be blocked.


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I think Cloud is stronger than Dante, who is not that impressive physically.


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Originally posted by Csdabest
Overpowered no. And as you saw Dante was able to slice the bullets in half showing a speed and accuracy feat right there. Virgil outmanuevered Dante blade. Also lol at cloud overpowering Sephy, Sephy was knocking him around the whole battle feild.


Overpowered yes, watch as they lock blades then Vergil knocks Dantes sword away, Sephiroth would do it with one strike, Cloud would probably do it in a few.

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Strength,and speed cloud doesnt have over Dante

Cloud doesnt have strength over Dante? Are u joking? Have u even watched Clouds fight? Show me Dante's strength that even compares to half of Clouds strength.

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Does anyone even remotely recall that DMC2 (currently) Dante is far stronger than DMC3 Dante? Why are we just relying on that version's feat?

I mean, because Dante has an insane speed feat in DMC2 that Cloud has never bear witness to. Fast reaction speed Cloud may have, but he's overall slower than Dante. Then, all it takes is Dante reinforcing his sword as usual, and it's done. And heaven prays that he doesn't do this in Devil form.


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Dante using a motor cycle as a melee weapon. Enough said. Overpower know. You can knock someone sword away who is way stronger than you will skill. We all know Virgil is way more skilled than dante. Dante was in know way overpowered.


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Ive yet to see Dante moving as fast as Loz.. You can clearly see Vergil overpowered him in that last push in the swordlock.. i dont see how that can be skill. So ur reasoning for Dante being more stronger then Cloud is because he can use a motorcycle as a melee weapon? Some HUMANS on earth are capable of that, do you think any humans on earth are capable of chopping up giant buildings like Cloud?

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Cloud didnt chop any buildings apart. Sephiroth Slice peices of buildings apart and let them fall down towards cloud. Cloud on sliced debris of buildings apart. Stop exaggerating the movie. If it was a true overepower there wouldnt be a power lock. That lasted that long. It was skill that knocked his sword sway. Read up on fencing and martial arts. Vergil and Dante are similar and strength and speed difference is that Vergil surpasses Dante with skill. It pretty obvious if you played through the DMC universe.


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The fanboyism is really getting to ur head if u really think Dante has more strength then Cloud, because Dante can lift up a motorcycle, yet Cloud chops up giant parts of concrete buildings easier then then you can cut up paper, Cloud obviously has a ton of strength to beable to jump that high, he basically flies around buildings.

The swordlock lasted about 7 seconds before Dante lost his sword, show me where there was room for technique/skill in that swordlock? And since when were there swordlocks in fencing? rofl

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And we're still talking only of DMC3 Dante... the inexperienced, "not in his prime", Dante.

I don't even see why strength matters anyway. Is this a fist fight? The only thing important here is speed and cutting resistance. Whoever has the highest of both wins.


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strength is important, as u can see, vergil overpowered him and dante lost his sword. Cloud has dealt with Loz and Yazoo at once, Loz has faster movement speed then Dante.

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And we're still talking only of DMC3 Dante... the inexperienced, "not in his prime", Dante.

I don't even see why strength matters anyway. Is this a fist fight? The only thing important here is speed and cutting resistance. Whoever has the highest of both wins.
Yup...

In the fight between Dante and Virgil, they were movein so fast that they were swingin at each other before rain drops could hit the ground. I have never seen Cloud come even remotely close to that. And in the beginin of DMC3 Dante was gettin slashed up and stabbed and act like it was nothin. If those same injuries were inflicted on Cloud, he woulda died.


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a slash from Cloud would leave Dante decaptitated, if it were raining and Cloud was having a sword combat with Sephiroth, the rain wouldnt be touching the ground either and the sphere would be way bigger because of the impact of the swords even caves in the ground

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a slash from Cloud would leave Dante decaptitated, if it were raining and Cloud was having a sword combat with Sephiroth, the rain wouldnt be touching the ground either and the sphere would be way bigger because of the impact of the swords even caves in the ground


Quite the fallacy there. You have proof that Cloud and Sephiroth would mimic Vergil and Dante's rain feat?

Oh, and Loz does not have faster movement speed than Dante.


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show me dante moving faster then loz, and they werent cutting every single raindrop that would still make rain hit the ground anyway, what caused the dome was the sword clash impact making all the rain at the same level and fall at the same time, as u can clearly see previously rain hitting the ground and their arms arent even moving fast enough

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=-Ht40zJW4Wk (0:39)

Now show me where Loz appears invisible to demon kings for some time. And that's Dante in base form...

P.S. Thanks for the concession


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http://youtube.com/watch?v=-Ht40zJW4Wk (0:39)

Now show me where Loz appears invisible to demon kings for some time. And that's Dante in base form...

P.S. Thanks for the concession


That doesnt really show his movement speed, since we see dante's movement speed at that running speed like all the time, for all we know he distracted the demon king with the sword, hid somewhere then snuck up infront of him with the gun

PS: What concession?

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What i mean by movement speed is being at one spot then another in a span of a second or less, not distract someone, go offscreen then get infront of him in a span of 10 seconds.

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I wish Charlotte DeBel was here.


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