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Well...you said he was near omnipotent.

On your opinion, who is stronger, Pyron at full power, or Belial(kinda stupid to ask, both are fairly unknown lol).


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Well...you said he was near omnipotent.
TO HIM, she was...is my point, not that she IS. He thinks she is very powerful.

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On your opinion, who is stronger, Pyron at full power, or Belial(kinda stupid to ask, both are fairly unknown lol).
Belial, he beat Demitri. and He wasn't at full power.


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Belial, he beat Demitri. and He wasn't at full power.
Pyron was only beaten by Demitri in a form that was so weak there is no comparison, FP Pyron can kill Demitri with one attack.

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Pyron was only beaten by Demitri in a form that was so weak there is no comparison, FP Pyron can kill Demitri with one attack.
Demetri wasn't at full power either, yo. And when Demetri fought Belial, Demitri WAS at full power and Belial was not.

Also, Jedah killed Pyron Empowered Demetri, that's Pyron and Demetri combined. It is already stated that Belial can kill Jedah in one move.


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Demetri wasn't at full power either, yo. And when Demetri fought Belial, Demitri WAS at full power and Belial was not.

Also, Jedah killed Pyron Empowered Demetri, that's Pyron and Demetri combined. It is already stated that Belial can kill Jedah in one move.
1. There is no real proof Demitri wasn't at full power. All that was said was that Demitri became able to leave his castle when he reached 80%. Pyron's mortal form is FAR weaker in comparison to his FP when compared to Demitri's 80%. And where are you getting Belial was not at full power when he fought Demitri?

2. Demitri absorbed Pyron's mortal form, for all we know he only got his mortal power.

Oh, and that's A>B>C logic.

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1. There is no real proof Demitri wasn't at full power. All that was said was that Demitri became able to leave his castle when he reached 80%.
When Demetri got enough power to leave the castle (80%) He left his castle and killed Pyron

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Pyron's mortal form is FAR weaker in comparison to his FP when compared to Demitri's 80%.
How can you prove that?

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And where are you getting Belial was not at full power when he fought Demitri?
Well...he damn near killed'im wit a warning shot.

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2. Demitri absorbed Pyron's mortal form, for all we know he only got his mortal power.
No, he absorbed Pyron and his entirety.

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Oh, and that's A>B>C logic.
When the characters are this powerful and none of the victories involve plot devices, I think it's okay.


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Originally posted by Project Jedah
When Demetri got enough power to leave the castle (80%) He left his castle and killed Pyron

How can you prove that?

Well...he damn near killed'im wit a warning shot.

No, he absorbed Pyron and his entirety.

When the characters are this powerful and none of the victories involve plot devices, I think it's okay.
1. Can you prove that?

2. Because FP Pyron eats planets, has galactic cosmic awareness, flys many times FTL, and mortal Pyron...doesn't.

3. Yeah, half power right?

4. Prove it.

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1. Can you prove that?
It's in'is profile which has prolly already been posted in'is respect thread.

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2. Because FP Pyron eats planets, has galactic cosmic awareness, flys many times FTL, and mortal Pyron...doesn't.
Who says he doesn't? Actually, er thing you said was done by Mortal Pyron. Pyron went mortal when he 1st seen earth and left it to rippen. We have no idea what Pyron can do when he takes his true form, which is mostlikely a giant mass of energy wit no defanate shape.

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3. Yeah, half power right?
And just half the power can rip holes into dimensions...Pyron has no feats that can even come close.

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4. Prove it.
He absorbed Pyron...

It aint like the guy seperates the power form himself. He just powers down, the power is still inside him.


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Originally posted by Project Jedah
It's in'is profile which has prolly already been posted in'is respect thread.

Who says he doesn't? Actually, er thing you said was done by Mortal Pyron. Pyron went mortal when he 1st seen earth and left it to rippen. We have no idea what Pyron can do when he takes his true form, which is mostlikely a giant mass of energy wit no defanate shape.

And just half the power can rip holes into dimensions...Pyron has no feats that can even come close.

He absorbed Pyron...

It aint like the guy seperates the power form himself. He just powers down, the power is still inside him.
1. Link?

2. Really? Can you prove that as well? And if that is the case, Demitri beating Pyron should be considered PIS of great degrees and should be disregarded.

3. A tiny ass hole that was only big enough to send a castle through, wow. Pyron just eats planets bigger than the entire landmass of Makai.

4. We don't know how Pyron made himself mortal, Demitri only absorbed mortal Pyron, you only assume it was Pyron's full power.

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1. Link?
You gonna have to find the respect thread yourself or PM Who else? or NES OR Lazy MF...cuz I don't have the time too look for it (or really feel like it). If I was at different computer I'd do it for you, but if you seek the truth...you will find it.

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2. Really? Can you prove that as well?
Pyron went mortal when he took human shape, when he appeared over earth the 1st time, did he not look like a human?

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And if that is the case, Demitri beating Pyron should be considered PIS of great degrees and should be disregarded.
Yeah, but Pyron powered down on purpose.

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3. A tiny ass hole that was only big enough to send a castle through, wow. Pyron just eats planets bigger than the entire landmass of Makai.
Tiny???

He sent the entire Maximov castle into another dimension and while not usin full power.

Not only would Pyron at his greatest not survive, IF he did, he would be in an entirely new dimension wit no way out. Pyron eatin planets wont save him from that.

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We don't know how Pyron made himself mortal, Demitri only absorbed mortal Pyron, you only assume it was Pyron's full power.
I aint see nothin shoot outta'im. I seen dude shrink. All the power was there, he just wasn't usin it. Erthing states he powered down, nothin says he separated his own power from him self, all sources clearly state he simply lowered his power.


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It's pretty much the same reason Pyron would lose to Jedah in direct combat, dimension smashing >>>>>>>>>> to the 9th degree munching planets.

Ohh, and Makai is a seperate DIMENSION, not a separate planet... it's an entirely different plane of existance.... People who say "But Makai is only the size of (insert some ting landmass or country here) can never prove that one universe is smaller or larger than another, not by a long shot.


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It's pretty much the same reason Pyron would lose to Jedah in direct combat, dimension smashing >>>>>>>>>> to the 9th degree munching planets.

Ohh, and Makai is a seperate DIMENSION , not a separate planet... it's an entirely different plane of existance.... People who say "But Makai is only the size of (insert some ting landmass or country here) can never prove that one universe is smaller or larger than another, not by a long shot.


Kinda what I been sayin, Makai IS call the Devil "DIMENSION".


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Wait...you all are aware that Jedah has never actually been defeated. Capcom has never officially stated that Jedah even lost at all. The ending of DS3 is actually pretty much in the air.

And even though Anita is a likely candidate to defeat Jedah, in actuality, Morrigan is most likely the one who would kill Jedah, not Anita.

I've played the DS games recently and there's A LOT of weird info and plot hints on Jedah and the Baby.

One small thing I see no one has done is win or loose with Pyron in the Night Warriors 2 game, both endings tell or foreshadow Jedah or/and the Baby’s return.

In Pyron’s loosing ending, Jedah or the baby speaks to him before he dies, basically telling Pyron he had no chance at all at taking the universe. And that he was destined to be destroyed. The game eeven says that Pyron is “mental food” for Jedah or the Baby.

In Pyron’s winning ending it basically states that even though he has conquered and became the universe, the fight is not over because Jedah or the Baby is coming and as we all know they want to absorb/destroy the Universe. Which means…eat Pyron.

The confusing part is that you can’t really tell if they’re talking about the baby or Jedah.

And I’m almost positive that I know who and what that baby is…for sure.


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Wait...you all are aware that Jedah has never actually been defeated. Capcom has never officially stated that Jedah even lost at all. The ending of DS3 is actually pretty much in the air.
I could've sworn they said he was destroyed and his dimension disappeared.

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And even though Anita is a likely candidate to defeat Jedah, in actuality, Morrigan is most likely the one who would kill Jedah, not Anita.
Why is that?

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I've played the DS games recently and there's A LOT of weird info and plot hints on Jedah and the Baby.

One small thing I see no one has done is win or loose with Pyron in the Night Warriors 2 game, both endings tell or foreshadow Jedah or/and the Baby’s return.

In Pyron’s loosing ending, Jedah or the baby speaks to him before he dies, basically telling Pyron he had no chance at all at taking the universe. And that he was destined to be destroyed. The game eeven says that Pyron is “mental food” for Jedah or the Baby.

In Pyron’s winning ending it basically states that even though he has conquered and became the universe, the fight is not over because Jedah or the Baby is coming and as we all know they want to absorb/destroy the Universe. Which means…eat Pyron.

The confusing part is that you can’t really tell if they’re talking about the baby or Jedah.

And I’m almost positive that I know who and what that baby is…for sure.
So that's what those endings mean. I'm gonna go play the game again and check'em out.


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It's pretty much the same reason Pyron would lose to Jedah in direct combat, dimension smashing >>>>>>>>>> to the 9th degree munching planets.

Ohh, and Makai is a seperate DIMENSION, not a separate planet... it's an entirely different plane of existance.... People who say "But Makai is only the size of (insert some ting landmass or country here) can never prove that one universe is smaller or larger than another, not by a long shot.
1. Smashing a dimension that only consisted of a landmass and ocean. Wow.

2. A really small dimension.

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1. Smashing a dimension that only consisted of a landmass and ocean. Wow.

2. A really small dimension.


And space...

Can you actually quantify Makai's size relative to that of any other dimension?

Even the brightest scientific minds can't do that, because each universe is infinite in size.


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can someone show me where it says he destroyed Makais space?

all ive seen is the Makai itself, the land


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No body has ever been beyond the miasma surroundin Makai, so to say it has only one single landmass in it would be wrong or consider what is beyond the Makai world not part of Makai would be wrong as well.

And we all know that Jedah is capable of absorbin/destroyin a universe/dimension, not only does it say this in his own endin but it even states it in DS2/Night Warriors, a game Jedah isn't even in.

So I know that is Jedah can do it Belail can.


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where does it say he can absorb universes? the main important aspect is you dont confuse people, if all Jedah absorbs Makai which is the landmass,then hell.....its not exactley worth the term of "universe" or "dimension"


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where does it say he can absorb universes? the main important aspect is you dont confuse people, if all Jedah absorbs Makai which is the landmass,then hell.....its not exactley worth the term of "universe" or "dimension"
The baby in Jedah's endin says "now that this world is destroyed, we must destroy the human world..." And it's already been shown that by world they just don't mean one planet, because for those of us who pay attention we know that there are other planets wit aliens on'em in the human world and Jedah wants ALL souls, not just human ones. Seeing as how DS2 says that even if Pyron was to become the universe he was doomed because Jedah would eventually come and eat'im

You know Jedah is capable right from the start of DS3. the guys goals tell you that...

He wants one dimension, wit one planet, wit ruling one being, wit one society...nothing else will exist if he gets his way...


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