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Surviving in space require sa lot more than just oxygen.


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Okay then. Kain dies as he can't survive in space and since the solar system went boom, there's nothing left and the shield doesn't last forever.

Oh and Sephiroth can teleport too...um, didn't you even WATCH the video?Please comment on a topic when you actually know what you're talking about.


why can he not survive in space? he would have air in his body and he doesnt need to breathe so he should be fine especially with his shield, Kain will "have" to survive in space anyway since remember, kain cant die.

yeh, i watched how slow the spell is, before Sephiroth even moves his arms, Kains reaver will be in his head, end off match......


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Surviving in space require sa lot more than just oxygen.


Not with game-mechanics. Games are fantasy creations and does not always make sense. Thanks to game-mechanics there are plenty of people that have survived in space. Kain would be able to do the same.
That is why people exclude game-mechanics from fights.


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Not with game-mechanics. Games are fantasy creations and does not always make sense. Thanks to game-mechanics there are plenty of people that have survived in space. Kain would be able to do the same.


Kain was never in goddam spac.e...

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kain cant die.


Ye she can. Accept it or stop debating.


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seriosuly game mechanics aside, what is required to survive in space, Humans explode because of air in their bodies and such, and ofc they cant breathe


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Kain was never in goddam spac.e..


No, but the game-mechanics would allow him to be, just like how game-mechanics allow people to survive a galaxy-busting attack.

Besides, game-mechanics appear to bring both the galaxy and the people in it back to life, so going by the FF game-mechanic, Kain survives. We do not have to use the LoK game mechanics to have Kain live, since the FF game-mechanics allows him to survive since in fact it does no damage at all to the galaxy.

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Kain was never in goddam spac.e...

Ye he can. Accept it or stop debating.


erm no you stop debating all together, youve failed enough today ime sure, you need a rest from it, learn characters, their powers and abilities which is important in a debate etc etc and what is Kain being in space to do with anything? hes still technically dead


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No, but the game-mechanics would allow him to be


Bullshit.
No evidence of this.
Stop making up things please.

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Besides, game-mechanics appear to bring both the galaxy and the people in it back to life, so going by the FF game-mechanic, Kain survives. We do not have to use the LoK game mechanics to have Kain live, since the FF game-mechanics allows him to survive since in fact it does no damage at all to the galaxy.


So now you want to prioritize FF game mechanics when it suits you.
Nice.

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erm no you stop debating all together, youve failed enough today ime sure, you need a rest from it, learn characters, their powers and abilities which is important in a debate etc etc and what is Kain being in space to do with anything? hes still technically dead


Kain dies. Get over it,


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So now you want to prioritize FF game mechanics when it suits you.
Nice.


Proritize? You were the one that wanted to use game-mechanics in the first place. Thse game mechanics allows not only the survival of the character, but the entire galaxy. Sure, game-mechanics would allow Kain to live in space but he would not have to since FF game-mechanics will undo all the damage the attack has done to the galaxy.

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Kain dies. Get over it,


lawlz roll eyes (sarcastic) Kains never died, so how can you say he dies? but infact he has died, your right, when he had his heart ripped out he technically died, when he was killed by Thugs in BO1, he was still kain, human but still kain and he died, but ofc, he always comes back, he simply cannot "stay" dead, he will always return since he cannot truelly die big grin


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Kain lives. Get over it,

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lawlz roll eyes (sarcastic) Kains never died, so how can you say he dies? but infact he has died, your right, when he had his heart ripped out he technically died, when he was killed by Thugs in BO1, he was still kain, human but still kain and he died, but ofc, he always comes back, he simply cannot "stay" dead, he will always return since he cannot truelly die big grin


No Limits Fallacy.
But what can you expect from Kain is skyfather....

You all need to learn to debate.


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You are all idiots.


You are basing this on what exactly?


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The simple fact you seem to think Kain can survive in space, despite no proof. The simple fact you think Kain can survive planet busting, with no proof.
It's all assumptions to benefit your side and it's idiotic.


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No Limits Fallacy.
But what can you expect from Kain is skyfather....

You all need to learn to debate.


laughing

"nooo everyone has it in for me!! you all need to learn to debate not me, ime right and everyone is wrong nooo!!, Pyronz iz Skyfather Galaxy sizeddd!"


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You think Glory can beat planet busters too?
You do know Buffy's Gllorificus is a god who is said can't be harmed or killed.
Like Kain, she's why No Limits Fallacy exists.


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if it says a being cannot be harmed or killed then you cannot assume otherwise just because YOU or others think that their character is simply more powerful and above that rule, i dont know who this character is but if a being cannot be harmed or killed, and is official, then trying to debate against it, is like trying to debate against FACTS which are set in stone, wheras your assumptions of what an apprently stronger character according to you can overrule it is an incredible load of BS , Kain simply canot die, and about this Glory person i dont know, but being able to destroy large amounts does not make you unbeatable, if a planet, galaxy, or universe buster takes 5 seconds to cast the power that can do it, and has no soul defenses, they die, or if they have no defense of a particulour type that their opponent has an attack for that could instantly kill them, they die, simple.


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Fine, whatever. Continue using your No Limits Fallacy.


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The simple fact you seem to think Kain can survive in space, despite no proof. The simple fact you think Kain can survive planet busting, with no proof.
It's all assumptions to benefit your side and it's idiotic.


It is not assumptions. It is based on the fact that you wanted to use game-mechianics, which is quite stupid.

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Originally posted by Pyron_is_God
Fine, whatever. Continue using your No Limits Fallacy.


as soon as i use one i will smile but your childish antics and bickering is pointless, actually debate or be banned for trolling, possible spamming, dragging things off topic, insulting, profanity, the list can prob go on and what makes it worse that nothing youve said in your time here is a debate and most of it is actually wrong


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