Re: Re: Re: I'm sorry if this thread has been done, but Was Moses on Mushrooms?
Originally posted by King Kandy
You can't really OD on mushrooms...
http://www.drugstraining.co.uk/DrugsInfo/info-magicmushro.html
I paraphrased the following from wiki and answers.com.
John Marco Allegro, was an author of the book The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, had views that connected many biblical features to cultic use of hallucinogenic mushrooms. these views attracted derision from the scholarly community, proposing that the offering loaves were originally called 'cakes' by ancient botanists, and were 'bun'-shaped caps of the mandrake mushroom, a hallucinogenic drug.
he argued that when these mushrooms were dried and skewered for preservation and that the fungi 'lozenges' were represented by the dehydrated loaves of the 'unleavened bread' in the Israelites' Passover food.
the academic community with the exception of only a handful of scholars, regarded Allegro's claims to be ludicrous, as well as over-sensationalist, thus his career was destroyed as a result.
the book received widespread condemnation and was only taken seriously by a handful of scholars. Prof JND Anderson observed that the book "had been dismissed by ... experts...as not being based on any philological or other evidence that they can regard as scholarly. However, there has been renewed interest in Allegro's work.
Jan Irvin and Andrew Rutajit published the book Astrotheology & Shamanism in 2006, which supported some of Allegro's ideas using iconographic and symbolic evidence that Allegro had overlooked.
in their book, sumerian expert Anna Partington, casts doubt on the broad brushed dismissals of Allegro's interpretations: "... The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross uses a number of hypothetical sumerian words not attested in texts. These are marked with an asterisk following philological convention.
this is akin to proposing there is a word in the english language 'bellbat' because the individual words 'bell' and 'bat' are known to exist separately. then again words of different languages are gathered together without the type of argument which would be expected in order to demonstrate possible relationship.
In May of 2006, Michael Hoffman of egodeath.com and Jan Irvin wrote an article for The Journal of Higher Criticism entitled Wasson and Allegro on the tree of knowledge as Amanita that suggested that Allegro's work should be evaluated on its merits like that of any other scholar and not dismissed merely because its arguments fall outside the mainstream. t
it must be noted here however that R. Gordon Wasson never commented on Allegro's theories relating to christianity, once stating that the author of the Book of Revelation could not have been "bemushroomed" because of the mortifications that he was suffering from.
Allegro went on to write several other books exploring the roots of religion; notably The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth, which seek to relate christian theology to gnostic writings, classical mythology, and egyptian sun-worship in the common quest for divine light.
It is suggested that Allegro believed the dead sea scrolls raised issues that concerned everyone. it wasn't just a matter of dusty manuscripts and disputed translations. rather, the story of the scrolls raised questions about freedom of access to evidence, freedom of speech, and freedom to challenge orthodox religious views.
Allegro believed that through understanding the origins of religion people could be freed from its bonds to think for themselves and take responsibility for their own judgments.
God created everything and said it was good! Delila even druged Samson. Besides that David in writing some of the Psalms was speaking of a drug he took, Mandrake, I believe.
Primary Effects
Parasympathetic depressant, hallucinogen, and hypnotic. Most hypnotics produce low alphoid and spindle alpha brain-wave activity, similar to that found in REM sleep, or the dreaming state. This rhythm does not allow deep sleep to occur although it does lower brain patterns into a dreamy visionary mode, known in magic as an astral plane experience
It was used as a drug for sex. Genesis 30:14-17 Rachel says she'll let Leah have sex with her husband if she gives her his son's mandrakes. Mandrake is a narcotic plant. That's right, this is a drug deal in the Bible. Not only that, it's a drug deal for sex! No mention is made if Leah's son Reuben who found the mandrake plants was upset that his mother gave away his stash.
Botanical Name: Mandragora officianarum (Solanaceae)
Synonyms: Mandragora, Satan's Apple, love apple, Circe's plant, Dudaim, Ladykins, Mannikin, Racoon, Berry, Bryony roots First accounts of the Mandrake date back to the Bible. The Ancients, including greeks, romans and celts considered it an anodyne and soporific
Originally posted by Tired-Hiker
I heard that the area where Moses lived was bountiful in naturally growing hallucinogenic mushrooms. Could all this 'parting the Red Sea' business have been a mushroom trip?
About 2% of the human population has the ability to spontaneously go into a DMT trip without the need for outside stimuli. I believe the prophets of God had this ability for the most part. I don't believe Moses would've needed to use the mushrooms, but he may have if God commanded him to in order to aid in the feats he performed during the Exodus.
Originally posted by lord xyz
There are many people who shared the same story as Moses.
God said He raised up prophets from all the peoples of the earth since the very beginning, and that some He told us about in scripture and some He did not. Just like the many versions of Noah that were scattered around the earth in the legends of the world, I would not be surprised if some of their other stories repeated over the aeons. It was the same basic message afterall, and people do tend to act exactly the same no matter the place and time.