Well kalibak has touched him, lobo touched him, mongul touched him, solomon grundy touched him, a imperex probe touched him, batman has touched him, deathstroke has touched him, darkseid touch him, metallo touch him, equus has touched him, hell almost superman entire rogue consist of nothing but brutes which is exactly what he is, a brute. Superman has been getting handled by brutes his entire career, so where do everyone keep bringing up crap saying that he wont get touched when his comic character say otherwise.
Show me superman just walking circles around his villians then maybe ill say that hulk cant touch him.
So basically we throw out whats been happening in comics for decades and create superman into a flash or zoom character. We basically use our imagination in debating instead of on panel proof. Ok well since we're doing that, when wolverine fights the thing, I dont think thing would land not a single blow. When gladiator fights wonder woman or superman I think his full confidence would boost him up to pre crisis level including his speed and he blitz them breaking there necks in a instant. I think that silver surfer would turn intagible his entire fight with superman and superman wont be able to land not one lick and since surfer has absorb the sun before I think superman heat vision would power him up to levels that superman hasnt seen yet in dc.
On panel proof out the window, imagination in the door.
Badaging, I totally agree but on panel proof is also what should be used in debates and thats what Im using. Im not downing superman or nothing but if you say that he can move and fight like the flash then this should happen alot, not just 6 times out of his entire career.
And llagrok, stop turning people in and debate, Im not causing you any physical or mental damage. If you dont like my post then post something to correct me, its not hard to do.
The last time they raced they both were clocked at 2000 mps, if you honestly think thats the fastest flash can go.
I know that superman has speed, well at least flight speed but his combat speed sucks and shouldnt be used in a debate when he rarely use it in battles where he almost get killed. Answer this for me, if metallo was to fight mimic, do you think that metallo would land a lick, if kalibak was to fight mimic, do you think that kalibak would land a lick. Remember this, mimic was clocked at flying 93000 mps.
He has combat speed feats as well as intangibility feats. You're the one who's throwing things out the window and trying to shape things around your perceptions and what you "think". Superman has running, flight and combat speed feats. So much that it's part of his power set and within KMC rules with regards to fighting at peak. Ignoring facts that you don't like doesn't change a thing.
WW Hulk was taking on Sentry who released more power than he ever had before. His healing factor makes his durability better. Supes has him on speed but then again so did Sentry. How did that turn out?
Superman can be downed to a lucky punch by someone such as Kalibak. Are you really claiming that Kalibak is stronger than the Hulk let alone WW Hulk?
WW Hulk takes everything Supes throws at him ans beats him senseless. He wouldnt need a lucky punch.
No problem with your opinions. Feel free to laugh if it makes you feel better.
But WWH is actually more durable in a conflict:
1. Regular Hulk is just under superman in durability. close but Superman is a little harder to penetrate.
2. Regular Hulk has a thing called regeneration that is beyond Wolverines.
3. Regular Hulk gets amps in regeneration, strength, and durability due to rage levels.
Just under Superman Durabilty+Deadpool Regen (at base levels) = Savage Hulk is actually more durable over time...just as he gets physically stronger and more destructive than Superman over time.
Thats just Savage Hulk.
Add to that we are talking about WWH here and there's really nothing to discuss.
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