Scythe
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I see it as just useless propaganda disguised as "freedom of speech" I just give somewhat props to them putting it on the cover since it probably cheesed off alot of people.
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Jul 16th, 2008 06:39 AM
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Why don't you tell us what's really on your mind; two days later?
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Jul 16th, 2008 07:24 AM
Scythe
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What're you talking about? I posted it on the first post, I admire daring shit like this. I feel clammed up in today's society, everyone seems scared to say Hillary or Obama suck.
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Jul 16th, 2008 07:47 AM
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Jul 16th, 2008 09:44 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Scythe
What're you talking about? I posted it on the first post, I admire daring shit like this. I feel clammed up in today's society, everyone seems scared to say Hillary or Obama suck.
so basically you negate its justification for printing (you know "hey dont worry america, people are certainly not stupid enough to take it seriously") the irony is so thick and juicy...like my penis.
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Jul 16th, 2008 11:34 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Schecter
i love how people try to draw parallels between other highly publicised political satire against bush or maccain when there are none. desperate people who would cry and kick and scream if it was done to their infallable heros who piss rainbows and shit pure sunshine. a running theme of idiocy. (yes this means you so dont ask)
Actually feature films like Fahrenheit 9/11 and music videos like "Mosh" came out about Bush, and they were downright attacks, not even satirical.
It does seem a bit hypocritical for people to be up in arms about this thing, which is really just satire.
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Jul 16th, 2008 05:58 PM
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I find the cover to be an exact reflection as to what will soon happen if Obama is elected! No, just kidding, but for people who do feel that way, the cover may feed their paranoid "See I told you so!" ridiculousness. In a way I'd like to see an equally stereotyped cover for McCain.
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Jul 16th, 2008 06:05 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by sithsaber408
Actually feature films like Fahrenheit 9/11 and music videos like "Mosh" came out about Bush, and they were downright attacks, not even satirical.
they depicted bush as a flag-burning secret islamic terrorist? shit i need to watch that again.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by sithsaber408
It does seem a bit hypocritical for people to be up in arms about this thing, which is really just satire.
satire which people are too stupid to understand apparently
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Jul 16th, 2008 07:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Schecter
they depicted bush as a flag-burning secret islamic terrorist? shit i need to watch that again.
satire which people are too stupid to understand apparently
If you ignore intent, you will not understand the similarities or differences. Also, if someone does not want to see something, they will not.
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Jul 16th, 2008 07:46 PM
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yeah, or you're wrong and bush was not depicted as a secret islamic flag burning terrorist. but the fact stands anyway that many people (yourself included) are too stupid to understand that this piece was intended to be a satirical jab at american paranoia and racism.
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Jul 16th, 2008 07:59 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Schecter
yeah, or you're wrong and bush was not depicted as a secret islamic flag burning terrorist. but the fact stands anyway that many people (yourself included) are too stupid to understand that this piece was intended to be a satirical jab at american paranoia and racism.
Thanks for giving an example of my point. You are missing the big picture; intent is everything.
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Jul 16th, 2008 08:02 PM
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no it isnt 'everything'. there is also responsibility and good taste. the new yorker should have contemplated their move well before executing and they obviously didnt. they banked on the idea that people are intelligent and would 'get it'.
trying to drag in a documentary which criticizes george bush based on his job performance proves nothing. yes people get criticized all the time. sometimes that criticism is unfair even. however being baselessly labeled as a terrorist and enemy of the state, intentional or not, is irresponsible and not the same as someone critiquing your lord and savior bush.
just more of your right wing apologist diluting of the topic im afraid.
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Jul 16th, 2008 08:14 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Schecter
no it isnt 'everything'. there is also responsibility and good taste. the new yorker should have contemplated their move well before executing and they obviously didnt. they banked on the idea that people are intelligent and would 'get it'.
trying to drag in a documentary which criticizes george bush based on his job performance proves nothing. yes people get criticized all the time. sometimes that criticism is unfair even. however being baselessly labeled as a terrorist and enemy of the state, intentional or not, is irresponsible and not the same as someone critiquing your lord and savior bush.
just more of your right wing apologist diluting of the topic im afraid.
Please apply this standard to everyone, including Bush.
BTW I'm not right wing. I used to be a Democrat until Dean. Now I'm independent. If I look right wing to you it is only because you are far left wing.
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Jul 16th, 2008 08:27 PM
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or you're just lying.
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Jul 16th, 2008 08:56 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Schecter
or you're just lying.
Typical for a far left winger.
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Jul 16th, 2008 09:19 PM
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I thought it was funny...
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Jul 16th, 2008 09:54 PM
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Maybe if the newspaper posted "THIS IS SATIRE" below the picture, it'd be okay.
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Also, people saying that it is aimed at Obama, seem to misunderstand the message.
On a different note, this one is way better, funnier, sadder, truer and importanter, then again, it is from the best magazine in existence.
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Jul 16th, 2008 10:08 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
Also, people saying that it is aimed at Obama, seem to misunderstand the message.
On a different note, this one is way better, funnier, sadder, truer and importanter, then again, it is from the best magazine in existence.
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Now THAT'S satire you can admire.
What magasine is that, and where can I get it?
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