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What would be the reason?


consistency


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consistency
Elaborate.


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What would be the reason?
Religious neutrality, for one.


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Religious neutrality, for one.
Which year would you choose as new starting point then?


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I wonder if they had a big New Era party back then

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Religious neutrality, for one.


If you can find me a person who feels oppressed by the current calender system . . . I'll make sure he/she can never breed.


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Lame thread that could have been answered using google?


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Which year would you choose as new starting point then?
Somewhere around 4300 BC. When the age of Taurus started and/or when civilisation started. You know, Babylon, Sumer. I don't know the exact date, but it's roughly 6000 years ago.


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Somewhere around 4300 BC. When the age of Taurus started and/or when civilisation started. You know, Babylon, Sumer. I don't know the exact date, but it's roughly 6000 years ago.


lol

ok, but "the age of Taurus" is just as religious as using 0, AD and BC

also, the origins of civilization date back over 30000 years. You are talking about the birth of great empires and writing/technology that survived until modern day


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What about the metric system?


It doesn't take the Earth 100 rotations to go round the Sun...thats why.


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lol

ok, but "the age of Taurus" is just as religious as using 0, AD and BC

also, the origins of civilization date back over 30000 years. You are talking about the birth of great empires and writing/technology that survived until modern day
I don't think it's religious, but anyway, it was just a suggestion.

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It doesn't take the Earth 100 rotations to go round the Sun...thats why.
What?


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How can you make a year fit into a metric system?


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How can you make a year fit into a metric system?
I don't know. How can you?


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I don't know. How can you?


You're the one who wanted to introduce metric time.


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I don't think it's religious, but anyway, it was just a suggestion.


how are astrological ages not based on a subjective belief as the birth of Christ? Maybe religion was the wrong thing to allude to, but it is just as supernatural and spiritual.

Taurus is a star sign. It means nothing except that people saw starts (which might not be close to each other in any respect aside from the 2d representation as seen from Earth) and were able to interpret pictures.

"Taurus" coming of age is no more or less important than the movement of 2d star formations which we do not have a name for. Its an entirely anthropic construct related to pre-civilization beliefs about what stars were.


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Somewhere around 4300 BC. When the age of Taurus started and/or when civilisation started. You know, Babylon, Sumer. I don't know the exact date, but it's roughly 6000 years ago.


And the billions of people who will be inconvenienced by this will do this just because is edgy and new age?


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You're the one who wanted to introduce metric time.
No I wasn't. Look again.

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how are astrological ages not based on a subjective belief as the birth of Christ? Maybe religion was the wrong thing to allude to, but it is just as supernatural and spiritual.
I think Astrology is more of a mind map, to keep track of events like eclipses and equinoxes.

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Taurus is a star sign. It means nothing except that people saw starts (which might not be close to each other in any respect aside from the 2d representation as seen from Earth) and were able to interpret pictures.
So?

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"Taurus" coming of age is no more or less important than the movement of 2d star formations which we do not have a name for. Its an entirely anthropic construct related to pre-civilization beliefs about what stars were.
I don't think it was a supernatural belief. There isn't evidence to suggest that. There isn't even evidence that people though the Earth was flat.


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Now, at first I thought it was because that's Jesus' assumed birth date, but no. Jesus is said to have been born before then. Like around 2 to 7 BC.

It WAS his assumed birth date, we just have recalculated since then.


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I think Astrology is more of a mind map, to keep track of events like eclipses and equinoxes.


astronomy

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So?


so, there is no real reason to change the way things are dated. If your line is as objectively arbitrary as the Christian one, there is no reason to redefine timelines. Like, the Chinese and the Arabs have their own calendar. Guess what they are converting to

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I don't think it was a supernatural belief. There isn't evidence to suggest that.


which isn't a supernatural belief? In what you quoted I described the constellation as an anthropic construct, meaning it only has significance to man, and then, only because we believe certain things about it.

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There isn't even evidence that people though the Earth was flat.


the flat earth society?

what point are you trying to make even? There is no significance to the "Age of Taurus" outside of the importance you give it because of what you believe. It is the exact same as Jesus' birth. Any date chosen from history as day 0 will have this problem, thus, there is no reason to change in an attempt to avoid it.


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If it bothers you so much just call it Common Era...I hear some eccentrics enjoy that.


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