Yes but in the current Reign in Hell story he is still the absolute ruler of Hell (although there is a mention of Lucifer being the supreme evil being) having Belial, Lilith and Asmodel as his b1tches.
Team 2 goes down hard like they went to the Spectre...
No.
Nabu wanted to stop the Spectre.
When he realised he didn't have any chance of surviving he accepted that only by dying would the Presence notice the Spectre and bind it to a new host.
There is a Neron respect thread in KMC I think you can find what you are looking for there.
Anyway
Since Neron already dealt with the Spectre better than anyone in this thread and the Spectre already made Shazam and Nabu his b!tches I rest my case.
Team 1 almost every time.
So Spectre charging Neron and being pushed back by him, means more than both Shazam and Nabu putting up a fight against him but eventually going down ?
I could start actually bringing evidence, and easily prove my point, but I'm going to wait if somebody actually knowledgeable about the characters involved comes and then do it
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OOOOh.
Someone who doesn't seem to have read Underworld Unleashed starts talking about who is knowledgeable about comics and who isn't.
Seriously now you hurt my feelings.
As for proving your point you don't need to.
We all know that Nabu and Shazam where pawned in DoV.
Anyway I've read DoV as well asUnderworld unleashed.
The main difference is that in DoV Spectre's opponents couldn't do anything to stop him whereas in Underworld Unleashed and particularly in the 2 Spectre tie-in issues Spectre couldn't do anything to stop Neron.
Get the difference o "knowledgeable" one?
At least for the sake of that story Neron>Spectre and we already know Spectre>Shazam, Nabu
Unlike you, I have read more than Underworld Unleashed. You obviously know very little about the characters, and that little knowledge is based on what you've read in the respect threads and such.
This is the reason why I choose not to discuss with you because I don't come to this forum to educate people on certain characters, but do debate with them.
The fact that you actually say that Neron > Spectre, clearly illustrates the fact that I've made the correct decision.
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Anyway, since I have to leave and won't be online for some time, I'll post these scans, who illustrate how an actual fight between Spectre and Neron went:
OK my dear resident comic expert.
You don't know me.
You don't know my level of comic knowledge and by claiming that Neron is the weak link here I don't even know if I can take you seriously on the matter.
But most importantly i giggle at the thought that you could possibly "educate" me on a comic book matter.
Having said that you also seem to have a problem with understanding the context of my posts.
I didn't say that Neron is more powerful than Spectre in general.
I said that for the sake of Underworld Unleashed Neron was portrayed as more powerful or at least able to achive his goals.
See the difference?
Overall I put Spectre on a higher level but on certain occasions Neron can do well against him.
On the other hand the most powerful versions of both Shazam and Nabu lost to a Spectre that was cut off from the Presence.
Neron was able to negate the Spectre and proceed with his plans.
Now with all you knowledge and wisdom if you think that you made the right decision it's fine by me.
Oh and don't try to "educate" poor ol' me because I have the feeling that I can do far better without your insights.
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