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the real question is how many more times stronger is superman with a sun dip. and how long does it last? Wondy's guantlets each make her ten times stronger. So she's gonna be twenty times stronger and more durable just with them alone. So techincally, superman won't even be that strong. And if he is, is power boost would run out while hers amps her stamina. She could keep on fighting.


The thing is, the fight won't last long enough for her stamina to make the slightest difference.

Also feats proving that WW with gauntlets is even as strong as normal superman?

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the real question is how many more times stronger is superman with a sun dip. and how long does it last? Wondy's guantlets each make her ten times stronger.
their amp stacks?


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Question: By how much does the sundip enhance Clark's abilities?


Depends on how long he is in there for. He could get a small boost, or he could come out like Superman 1M.

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If memory serve right did WW fought Imperiex probe with sword and her armor beside her lasso and not sure about the gauntlet though and got really beaten by probe very badly(not defeat though) indeed where as supes fought probe by himself without amped against the probe and do quite well then WW.


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If memory serve right did WW fought Imperiex probe with sword and her armor beside her lasso and not sure about the gauntlet though and got really beaten by probe very badly(not defeat though) indeed where as supes fought probe by himself without amped against the probe and do quite well then WW.


That would be ABC logic, and that doesn't fly.

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Didn't the godwave create Kryptonians in DC's creation history? According to DS the godwave is what Kryptonians and other super races (like the guardians) draw their power from. Kryptonians just have a catch, they need solar radiation to unlock the power in their cells, the more exposure they get, the more power they unlock which is why Supes power increases.

The solar radiation itself is not the source of their power merely what unlocks it.


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The thing is, the fight won't last long enough for her stamina to make the slightest difference.

Also feats proving that WW with gauntlets is even as strong as normal superman?


I doubt you will find any feats. She only used the gauntlets once to fight the Doomsday clone. The gauntlets do augment the wearer's strength ten-fold. I don't think Clark is normally 10 times stronger than Diana.

Doesn't the armor also add extra protection from all forms of damage? That ups her durability as well which is why I don't think this ends quickly. Is she sporting her shield along with the rest of her armor?

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Depends on how long he is in there for. He could get a small boost, or he could come out like Superman 1M.


That's what I thought. The "fully sundipped" part of the battle description is a bit vague then isn't it? He got a bit of a dip in WW219 and he couldn't put Diana down. But as you say, if he spent a week sunbathing, then I'm sure he would be much, much more powerful.

We'd need more info I think.

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I doubt you will find any feats. She only used the gauntlets once to fight the Doomsday clone. The gauntlets do augment the wearer's strength ten-fold. I don't think Clark is normally 10 times stronger than Diana.

Doesn't the armor also add extra protection from all forms of damage? That ups her durability as well which is why I don't think this ends quickly. Is she sporting her shield along with the rest of her armor?


1. True, Current Diana isn't far from Superman in terms of raw Strength, and he certainly isn't anywhere near twice as strong. She just isn't as durable by default.

2. True, it ups all hers defenses in all areas.

3. Yes, She does have her shield in addition to wearing the Amazonian armor.


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That's what I thought. The "fully sundipped" part of the battle description is a bit vague then isn't it? He got a bit of a dip in WW219 and he couldn't put Diana down. But as you say, if he spent a week sunbathing, then I'm sure he would be much, much more powerful.

We'd need more info I think.


Agreed, For purposes of clarification....I'd say Superman has a full 24 hour days dip, as he can certainly stay in there for extended amounts of time.


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That's what I thought. The "fully sundipped" part of the battle description is a bit vague then isn't it? He got a bit of a dip in WW219 and he couldn't put Diana down. But as you say, if he spent a week sunbathing, then I'm sure he would be much, much more powerful.

We'd need more info I think.




That not sudipped that is sunamped. there different between those situation
Sundipped :superman dived in the sun for some time and become like human torch except that he is infinitely powerful than ever before.
sunamped :superman bathed in sunlight or came close contact with sun.

As far as ww219 is concern that writer stated that fight never intended to be close to the sun and that is illustrator mistake and that not count as sunamped superman only enraged stupid superman vs WW.

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That not sudipped that is sunamped. there different between those situation
Sundipped :superman dived in the sun for some time and become like human torch except that he is infinitely powerful than ever before.
sunamped :superman bathed in sunlight or came close contact with sun.

As far as ww219 is concern that writer stated that fight never intended to be close to the sun and that is illustrator mistake and that not count as sunamped superman only enraged stupid superman vs WW.

It was sun amped superman. writers take back shit all of the time to make superman fans happy.

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It was sun amped superman. writers take back shit all of the time to make superman fans happy.



writer statement >>>>>>>>>>>>>your opinion.IT suck but is true. smokin'

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writer statement >>>>>>>>>>>>>your opinion.IT suck but is true. smokin'

On Panel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Writer Statement.
becuz if writer statements were true, then superman is far far far more powerful than Thor. Really. according to you know. writers.

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On Panel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Writer Statement.
becuz if writer statements were true, then superman is far far far more powerful than Thor. Really. according to you know. writers.


I kinda agree with that or else we will be having Sentry stalemating Galactus, when he lost to WWH.


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It was sun amped superman. writers take back shit all of the time to make superman fans happy.


The whole Sunamped thing is dubious at best. It was never mentioned in comic for one. Second, at the speed that they flew out there and back..he wasn't out there long enough to get any type of amp.

Contrast it to the battle where he fought Cythonna where it was stated that he was sunamping and he was obviously fighting there with her for a while.

There was no amp in Sacrifice.


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On Panel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Writer Statement.
becuz if writer statements were true, then superman is far far far more powerful than Thor. Really. according to you know. writers.


Those writers that wrote the story not me and Avlon is right there no mention of sunamped in sacrifice arc and darksied vs superman in SM/batman comic is another time I think supes is sunamped.

IF we count by on panel and feat BTW Supes >> WW.

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their amp stacks?
Each gauntlet amps her strength 10 times. She only wore won to destroy the doomsday creature.

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