Originally posted by ushomefree
C'mon... let's be fair. The disciples feared the Romans, and they fled for their lives. They never renounced the teaches of Jesus and re-subscribed to Jewish teachings/laws. In fact, they later rejoined and lead the Christian movement while experiencing persecution and death.
Peter turned away from jesus, swore, and said that he never knew the man. (jesus's "rock"😉
David sent a man to die in battle so that he could lay his wife. (god called him a man after his own heart)
Solomon Worshiped false idols.
And do you think its hard for us, here? what about we who are mentally persecuted our entire lives for being christians, us who are called stupid and who the media portrays as evil. We, who the scientists push so hard to find proof against our beliefs. We, in a society surrounded by, based on, and saturated by sex. Do you think it's hard for any christian not to misstep? We are humans, not god. It doesn't make it excusable, but we aren't excommunicated for a sin.
Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~And do you think its hard for us, here? what about we who are mentally persecuted our entire lives for being christians, us who are called stupid and who the media portrays as evil. We, who the scientists push so hard to find proof against our beliefs. We, in a society surrounded by, based on, and saturated by sex. Do you think it's hard for any christian not to misstep? We are humans, not god. It doesn't make it excusable, but we aren't excommunicated for a sin.
Holy crazy...
Tust me, I was much more engrossed in translational regulation of mammalian iron metabolism than "god."
Thinking all of society is out to get you is a form of paranoia. Just because someone uses facts to question your beliefs...gah...you can't research god. Everything about god is entirely outside of the realm of science. Its like blaming the water for sinking your boat.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Only historians, sociologists and *a half dozen different mind/brain fields* are even remotely interested in religion as part of their field.
and in those instances, it is about the behaviour of religious people or institutions, not about the validity of the beliefs.
I can't think of an actual field of science which actively looks for evidence that is contrary to religious views.
Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
Peter turned away from jesus, swore, and said that he never knew the man. (jesus's "rock"😉David sent a man to die in battle so that he could lay his wife. (god called him a man after his own heart)
Solomon Worshiped false idols.
And do you think its hard for us, here? what about we who are mentally persecuted our entire lives for being christians, us who are called stupid and who the media portrays as evil. We, who the scientists push so hard to find proof against our beliefs. We, in a society surrounded by, based on, and saturated by sex. Do you think it's hard for any christian not to misstep? We are humans, not god. It doesn't make it excusable, but we aren't excommunicated for a sin.
about this post.
Don't judge me. In order to persuade crazy you have to talk crazy.
Originally posted by Ordo
Tust me, I was much more engrossed in translational regulation of mammalian iron metabolism than "god."Thinking all of society is out to get you is a form of paranoia. Just because someone uses facts to question your beliefs...gah...you can't research god. Everything about god is entirely outside of the realm of science. Its like blaming the water for sinking your boat.
i was referring more to the fact that you used a blanket statement. you then used yourself as an example as if you represent everyone. i know that wasnt your intention but still. 😛
im sure there are scientists out there who go out of their way to somehow disprove the existence of god... not everyone thinks as rationally as you do. 😛
id say its just as incorrect to say no one is out to get you as it is to say everyone is.