But, SBP destroyed Universes, moved Planets, altered Reality, all by just by punching/using his hands. I don't think he gets enough credit here.
He did also pretty well against magic. Bette then Thor against, say Wolverine claws and physical force
RKT is quite overrated. Speculation is an amazing "feat" for fans.
That's why Superman-Prime (golden one from 1M) > LT for some.
Odin can't destroy the Marvel U, PIS aside. There are forces so much greater than him, Celestials, Galactus etc. He would have to overcome them first and he simply can't.
To the Fanboy part. Thus fanboys are as right as all the RKT fanboys,
ABC logic.
Odins feats = RKT feats and RKT > Odin.
Superman 1M, Superman Dynasty, Superman (All-Star, regular) feats = Golden Superman-Prime and Superman-Prime (who powers S !M and the Superman Dynasty) >>>>> Superman 1M
So now you will make the one who sit above as strong as you want?
They shouldn't be too strong, if you compare how many there are the they don't even have to stronger then Odin individually. Thus this feat just proves that RTK is stronger then Odin, nothing more. You can't prove how strong they are, just they together, they were stronger then Odin.
In addition, if you were to use the Multiverse feats and such, I don't see why I can't use PC feats from Green Lanterns, and Legion of Superheroes from PC era to support how strong they are. After all, these were not retconned at all.
Who the hell is saying anything about them being stronger than Odin individually or as a whole? Not sure what that has to do with anything.. This is how the argument goes...
1. You claim The Ones That Sit Above are Weaker than before. Your basing this on the fact that you believe Odin is now weaker. Which by the way there is no proof of either. Even if I concede Odin has been made weaker by writers that wouldn't extend to any of Odin foes. That is extrapolating what to much from a situation that is just an assumption anyways. Your evidence is that Odin no longer does multiverse shattering attacks or battles....
2. I say.. well even when Odin was fighting at those levels he still couldn't stop Ragnarok, so I'm unclear the point your trying to make. To which you just ramble on about nothing really relevant. Bring up GL's and PC stuff which I fail to see how that is relevant. I point to the fact that Thor who sacrificed more than Odin did was able to stop Ragnarok. NOt because of the reaching and assuming your doing but because as you say he's just more powerful. If somebody is more powerful why can't that be why he was able to accomplish the feat. You conceded he is. Yet you wanna claim it was because they are now weaker? Nah, that is very logically at all.
Are you really claiming that Odin is still the same power house he is when he was during his prime (like more then a decade ago). If so, please post scan of him shaking the multiverse, destroying Galaxies as a result of his battle. Don't bother, you won't find it.
As for Marvel, mostly all their character have gotten significantly weaker since 2 decades or more ago; just as DC PC era where characters were stronger.
Either way, it's up to you to prove that the Ones that Sit above are strong as you claim them to be, otherwise, you can't use it as a strong feat, only to proof that RTK is stronger then Odin.
I am bring up PC era to show you that over time, characters have been downgraded in terms of how strong they are especially characters like Thor, Sentry, Superman..etc. Don't you find it weird people use feats for Thor for the 80's and 90's but only a few for the last few years.
Heck, both DC and Marvel both made their characters really strong 15-30 years ago, they have been downgrade.
Now, here is my claim. Proof how strong was RTK? You can't say much except that he is much stronger then Odin. This is the same crap if I were to put Superman Prime (golden guy from 1Million) in this situation. I can't say nothing except that he is stronger then all his descendants.
Exactly. So why should one use feat from decade or more ago only for Marvel, but another can't use PC feats? That just blasphemy!! If a character has been shown to be weaker for a huge amount of time, obviously, he has been downgraded
Because PC isn't in continuity? At least Marvel's are. But I agree to a certain extent. If the character hasn't shown "shaking the multiverse", then we should use the averages. Odin is overrated, IMO.
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Your line of logic is faulty and based on false premises. Firstly fyi Odin never shook the multiverse. NOw that that is out of the way, his two galaxy busting feats are the best feats he has in his history so for u to expect to see them on a regular basis especially is foolish. Heck the two of them happened decades apart for that matter with the second one coming in the mid nineties while the first one occured in the earlier thor issues. Within this decade however Odin has performed feats that show he is still at similar levels of power such as casually creating a solar system. On panel Odin never showed an actual dip in his general powerlevel. Not matching ur highest feat ever doesnt indicate that uve been downgraded.
Further the claim that Marvel has been downgrading their characters is not actually true. Many of marvels characters have actually gotten progressively more powerful. Wolverine,Iceman most prominently and most of the Xmen,Silver surfer etc have all been gradually upgraded powerwise.
With that said. RKT wins easily
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