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MooCowofJustice
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The bow gets enchanted.


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Where is that said?


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The reason you haven't seen them anymore is because all of the games being released now take place before LttP, LoZ and AoL. The fact remains that if light arrows could only stun a weaker Ganon they sure as hell couldn't kill a stronger one. Thus, they simply can't be the same item.


Negative. The focus of the games has long since shifted from the arrows being the primary weapon with sword as a secondary to the sword being the primary weapon against Ganon. That explains the difference in power. In OoT, the final strike comes from the master sword, but it obviously can't be the same sword as in aLttP? Ohwait, it is. no expression

The Silver arrows originated in the first game, when it was still your standard Christian fantasy game. After 1992 all Christian themes had vanished, and the silver arrows with them. Been retconned.


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It's shown. The fairy even asks you if you dropped it, you say yes, and she gives you back a better item.


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Team 1 loses to Big Link and Invisible Link


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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
It's shown. The fairy even asks you if you dropped it, you say yes, and she gives you back a better item.


Better item being silver arrows, not a bow.


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@Sin:
Team one has the lense of truth, and being big isn't an instant win.


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Two pages in 5 hours. Not a bad turnout. smile


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WW Link possesses a seagull for recon smile


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Seagulls? Shit. I forgot. Clearly WW Link soloes.


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WW Link eliminates use of Ocarina's, flutes, etc. by using teh Wind Waker to conduct their music, foiling their attempts. no expression


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Wind Waker = trivial. He has freakin Kyoi Pears. no expression Nothing else matters.


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Lol, rotten pears. Also, WW Link has the nicest house out of all the Links. Cabana ftw. Pet zombies in the basement ^_^


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Ah this is very difficult.
AHoT Link and LttP Link are IMO the greatest contenders.

I would give it to team 1 after a very difficult battle.

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Ah this is very difficult.
AHoT Link and LttP Link are IMO the greatest contenders.


Here's how it stacks up for AHoT, imo:

- Quake Medallion is countered by Hover Boots
- Bombos and Ether Medallions are countered by Nayru's Love
- Magic Cape is somewhat countered by Lens of Truth
- HoT has the superior Mirror Shield
- Fire and Ice Rods are rendered null by the Mirror Shield
- Pegasus Boots..... now there's your problem..... Perhaps a Spin Attack?


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The silver arrows and the magic sword are both new items, Scream, not retcons. The reason the Master Sword doesn't hurt Ganon in LttP like it did in OoT is because Ganon was stronger, he had the entire triforce. The MS was no more or less powerful, it was just against a tougher opponent. The Silver arrows were a new item that didn't exist at the time of OoT, to say they are light arrows is just silly.

As for the magic sword it has to be a different weapon as well. Notice how it occurs in a game taking place after LttP and the epilogue of that game tells us the Master Sword was never used again after that. It can't be the Master Sword because the MS was sleeping while it was being used.


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The silver arrows and the magic sword are both new items, Scream, not retcons. The reason the Master Sword doesn't hurt Ganon in LttP like it did in OoT is because Ganon was stronger, he had the entire triforce. The MS was no more or less powerful, it was just against a tougher opponent. The Silver arrows were a new item that didn't exist at the time of OoT, to say they are light arrows is just silly.
Can you prove any of this? No. The silver arrows are a throw back to the early Zelda games when Christian themes were still present.


As for the magic sword: Zelda.com says it's the master sword.


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I don't need to prove anything, the games have done all the proving for me. LttP says the Master Sword slept forever after the events of that game. Seeing as how that game takes place long before Zelda 1 and 2, they simply aren't the same sword. Besides, LttP was created after the last appearance of the magical sword. Do you understand what a retcon is? If they were retconning it they would have had to do it in the games that came after the last appearance of the Magical Sword, and they make it very clear in LttP that this isn't the case.

As for the Silver Arrows, as a Christian myself I can tell you Silver Arrows have nothing to do with the symbols of my faith. They're a different item, that's just a fact. If light arrows couldn't kill a weaker Ganon then they couldn't kill the stronger one.

For a guy who has such a hard on for Link you sure are poorly versed in the LoZ series.


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I'm a Christian too, you might wanna look into history a little. Edit: Even if they were unconnected, this is a case of obvious retcon. Once the rules of the Zelda universe were finetuned Light became the holy force.

But uh, yeah. Nintendo's site says they're the same sword, I kinda win.


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Except for the fact that Miyamoto and the other creators have nothing to do with a site Nintendo of America operates. Unless the creators make a direct statement, the game is the final authority. Until the actual creators state otherwise, they aren't the same. Sorry.


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