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Q99
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Genocide could beat him. The lasso lets her to not-nice things to his soul, and the gem doesn't help against that.

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Genocide could beat him. The lasso lets her to not-nice things to his soul, and the gem doesn't help against that.

Actully the Gem and the sould become one....and unless the lasso is >>the Gem then nothing aint happening... cool

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Yeah, I could see Genocide (or CISless WW) soul raping Apoconaut

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You actually think Genocide/WW can defeat this Apoc?
I say that no one below Thanos can stop this guy.

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You actually think Genocide/WW can defeat this Apoc?
I say that no one below Thanos can stop this guy.

Perhaps not for a majority, but it's possible, imo.

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The lasso won't get past Poccy's shields erm

Mar 20th, 2010 02:23 AM

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The lasso won't get past Poccy's shields

But the tiara can.

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But the tiara can.

How many times has WW actually used her tiara? Plus Apoc can always teleport out of the way.

Mar 20th, 2010 02:27 AM

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How many times has WW actually used her tiara? Plus Apoc can always teleport out of the way.

Enough times to validate it as an option, in all honesty. And yes, Apoc can teleport, but Diana has superspeed and combat reflexes to go along with it.

Again, it's possible for her to win.

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How many times has WW actually used her tiara? Plus Apoc can always teleport out of the way.

I dunno, over the years, hundreds?

Depends on the writer. Early days she used it a lot, in the 90s not all that often. Nowadays she busts it out every now and then, both the Superman and Genocide fights involved it.

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You actually think Genocide/WW can defeat this Apoc?

Geno's way of using the lasso is just hax.

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Yeah, I could see Genocide (or CISless WW) soul raping Apoconaut

How can she sould rape the Gem of Cyttorak.. confused

remember the soul of the user and the Gem become one and she aint soul raping the Gem... cool

Mar 20th, 2010 02:52 AM

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How can she sould rape the Gem of Cyttorak.. remember the soul of the user and the Gem become one and she aint soul raping the Gem...

Yes, because god forbid anything Cyttorak be portrayed as less than truly impervious. The lasso has worked on skyfather beings before; there's no reason to believe it wouldn't work if it was wrapped around Apoc or Juggernaut unless you have scans showing either of them resisting a similar method of attack.

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How can she sould rape the Gem of Cyttorak.. remember the soul of the user and the Gem become one and she aint soul raping the Gem...

The lasso has in the past worked on the likes of Ares. It is serious mojo.

Mar 20th, 2010 02:57 AM

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Yes, because god forbid anything Cyttorak be portrayed as less than truly impervious...

Cyttorak>>any god empowering WW... smokin'

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The lasso has in the past worked on the likes of Ares.

Cyttorak>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos>>>>>>>Sentry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ares.... smokin'

Mar 20th, 2010 02:57 AM

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DC Ares, who's often near-Skyfather to low-Skyfather, not Marvel Ares.

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Cyttorak>>any god empowering WW...

Sure, but the lasso works on those gods just fine, and the Gem's only 1/7th of Cyttorak's power. 1/7th is less than one of those gods.

Genocide also is WW's power + Ares's power on top. We saw a possible future where she'd be used as the key in a plan to make all the pantheons fall.

Mar 20th, 2010 02:59 AM

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My damn dog has more on panel feats than Cyttorak.

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Sure, but the lasso works on those gods just fine, and the Gem's only 1/7th of Cyttorak's power.

Thats not so true...we have seen less dumber people use the Gem to a much much level of power, I bet a guy like Apoc will now how to use more.... smokin'

Mar 20th, 2010 03:02 AM

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My damn dog has more on panel feats than Cyttorak.

Yet Odin fears him and his avatar has moped the floor with Odin's own blood and torn the very fabrick of reality.... eek!

yeah he is weak, why dont' you make a Cyttorak vs Thanos thread while you at et... roll eyes (sarcastic)

Mar 20th, 2010 03:04 AM

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Come on. Regular Apoc would beat WW. Now he has the gem of Cyttorak.

As I have said before instant teleportation > travel speed

Mar 20th, 2010 03:04 AM

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