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Omega Vision
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Originally posted by Mr Master
Beyonder limited himself greatly
in order to fit in with the microbes (like the LT) he was dealing with.

Granted. But Mandrakk really wasn't hindered in the slightest by anything but the Cosmic Armor. So I'm not sure what 'effects' Quan is talking about. And yes I'm limiting "Mandrakk" in this case to V1 Novu Flavor (accept no substitutions).


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Beyonder creates his own stories.

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Mandrakk was himself described as an ever adapting story which destroyed other stories. People are getting caught up with the devices of the story (like reality warping or energy blasts) those things are irrelevant to Mandrakk, since it is not the devices of the story which affect him but the nature of the story.

This is why Superman and Ultraman were recruited by Novu's lady and not some 10th dimensional being.


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Originally posted by Allankles
Mandrakk was himself described as an ever adapting story which destroyed other stories. People are getting caught up with the devices of the story (like reality warping or energy blasts) those things are irrelevant to Mandrakk, since it is not the devices of the story which affect him but the nature of the story.

This is why Superman and Ultraman were recruited by Novu's lady and not some 10th dimensional being.


And Beyonder was omnipotent.

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And Beyonder was omnipotent.


Nigh omnipotent you mean.


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Nigh omnipotent you mean.


No, I mean 100% omnipotent. Presence level omnipotent.

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Originally posted by TheTyrant
No, I mean 100% omnipotent. Presence level omnipotent.


Where was it stated that the Beyonder was > TOOA though?

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Where was it stated that the Beyonder was > TOOA though?


TOAA > Beyonder = Presence

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beyonder wasnt omnipotent. when he killed death he put a huge amount of his power into that crunk cup. afterward he was WAY weaker he even said so. omnipotent dudes dont run out of power or get weaker...... ever.


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heres a few scans to back up wat i said
http://img402.imageshack.us/i/beyonderweak1.jpg/
http://img19.imageshack.us/i/beyonderweak2.jpg/
http://img46.imageshack.us/i/beyonderweak3.jpg/


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Originally posted by TheTyrant
TOAA > Beyonder = Presence

I'm not sure how you can say TOAA>Presence or the other way around for that matter.


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Is the Presence the writer/editor, or is it just a character?

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Is the Presence the writer/editor, or is it just a character?

Under Gaiman's pen He was just a character, THE most powerful character, but a character nonetheless, shaped by external forces (Neil Gaiman).


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Under Gaiman's pen He was just a character, THE most powerful character, but a character nonetheless, shaped by external forces (Neil Gaiman).
I thought he was like TOAA and is the embodiement of the writer?


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I thought he was like TOAA and is the embodiement of the writer?

He is...sort of.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
He is...sort of.
What does that mean?


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Originally posted by Black bolt z
What does that mean?

Meaning it depends on the story and the writer.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Meaning it depends on the story and the writer.
so he's like spectre?It all depends on who is writing for how powerful he is?


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Originally posted by Black bolt z
so he's like spectre?It all depends on who is writing for how powerful he is?


thats like every character ever


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Originally posted by jalek moye
thats like every character ever

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Some just fluctuate more than others.


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Originally posted by jalek moye
thats like every character ever
I thought I heard an example of spectre being the example of that.Some writers he was insanely strong and some he was insanely weak.


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