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Rage.Of.Olympus
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His being sarcastic or just joking.

Course, he might just be acting stupid cause his bored.

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Originally posted by zopzop
Nah the writers just need to get creative with use of powers and he's as good as dead.

big grin

Really? Good, I saw that scan and was like WTF? big grin I just found it hard to believe that they were wielding that kind of power.


You're entitled to your opinion.

Really. You should see Thor's higher end feats. Multiversal level.


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Supposedly they didn't cause the damage, a weapon did.
You believe Rage?

Come on brochacho, I'm on your side!


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His being sarcastic or just joking.

Course, he might just be acting stupid cause his bored.
You must be pretty bored bro!


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You should see Thor's higher end feats. Multiversal level.


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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
You believe Rage?

Come on brochacho, I'm on your side!


Thanks? big grin

But yes I believe him, all I saw was a scan or two I don't have the issue. Why would he lie?


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Yea, I'm lying. Black Bolt's scream was powerful enough to destroy the Universe and Vulcan being who he is, absorbed the blast, reducing the radius to a few parsecs.

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You must be pretty bored bro!


I actually am brosef.

I'm putting off doing my work.

Thor/Mjolnir actually have Multiversal level feats.


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Originally posted by zopzop
Why would he lie?
I agree. Why would he?
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Yea, I'm lying. Black Bolt's scream was powerful enough to destroy the Universe and Vulcan being who he is, absorbed the blast, reducing the radius to a few parsecs.


There you have it.

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I actually am brosef.

I'm putting off doing my work.

Thor/Mjolnir actually have Multiversal level feats.
Ah bro bro. You gotta do your browork you no what I am saying?

Nothing ringing any bells so far. I'm intrigued.


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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I agree. Why would he?

There you have it.

Ah bro bro. You gotta do your browork you no what I am saying?


I'm too lazy. Know what I mean brah? You feel me?

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Nothing ringing any bells so far. I'm intrigued.


1. An infinite number of dimensions/universes were falling apart as the dimensional barriers were warped away by reality manipulation I believe. The Multiverse was collapsing. Eternity was dying. Thor rallied the fellow Thor Corps, and combined their energies into a huge God Blast that fortified the barriers, stopping -or at least slowing down- the collapse until the barriers were warped back. Thor deserves more credit than any of the other members for that feat if I'm remembering the scene correctly.

2. Masterson Thor and Dargo Ktor struck each other with a force that wasn't seen since the Big Bang. The shockwave rippled through various planes of reality. The Tomorrow Man collected the left over energy produced by that shock-wave and was going to use the power to collapse an infinite amount of time lines into a single one that he ruled over or something similar.

3. Thor's World Engine feat would count as Multiversal now I guess.


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Yea, I'm lying. Black Bolt's scream was powerful enough to destroy the Universe and Vulcan being who he is, absorbed the blast, reducing the radius to a few parsecs.



I actually am brosef.

I'm putting off doing my work.

Thor/Mjolnir actually have Multiversal level feats.
What multiversal feats does he have?I'm not saying he doesn't as some heralds have some stupidly ridiculous feats.I'm just curious.


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I'm too lazy. Know what I mean brah? You feel me?



1. An infinite number of dimensions/universes were falling apart as the dimensional barriers were warped away by reality manipulation I believe. The Multiverse was collapsing. Eternity was dying. Thor rallied the fellow Thor Corps, and combined their energies into a huge God Blast that fortified the barriers, stopping -or at least slowing down- the collapse until the barriers were warped back. Thor deserves more credit than any of the other members for that feat if I'm remembering the scene correctly.

2. Masterson Thor and Dargo Ktor struck each other with a force that wasn't seen since the Big Bang. The shockwave rippled through various planes of reality. The Tomorrow Man collected the left over energy produced by that shock-wave and was going to use the power to collapse an infinite amount of time lines into a single one that he ruled over or something similar.

3. Thor's World Engine feat would count as Multiversal now I guess.
That was more of a chain reaction thing as it sounds

Ummmm....Ok.Like I said ridiculously stupid.

World Engine?


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That was more of a chain reaction thing as it sounds

Ummmm....Ok.Like I said ridiculously stupid.

World Engine?


Which one? The first one? From what I recall, it didn't start with one Universe and go on from there. It was countless dimensions just collapsing on each other due to Demonstaff's warping. It was Thor Corps #4 if anyone wishes to confirm this.

Thor overpowered the World Tree and the World Engine.


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I'm too lazy. Know what I mean brah? You feel me?



1. An infinite number of dimensions/universes were falling apart as the dimensional barriers were warped away by reality manipulation I believe. The Multiverse was collapsing. Eternity was dying. Thor rallied the fellow Thor Corps, and combined their energies into a huge God Blast that fortified the barriers, stopping -or at least slowing down- the collapse until the barriers were warped back. Thor deserves more credit than any of the other members for that feat if I'm remembering the scene correctly.

2. Masterson Thor and Dargo Ktor struck each other with a force that wasn't seen since the Big Bang. The shockwave rippled through various planes of reality. The Tomorrow Man collected the left over energy produced by that shock-wave and was going to use the power to collapse an infinite amount of time lines into a single one that he ruled over or something similar.

3. Thor's World Engine feat would count as Multiversal now I guess.
I'm just going to accept all these as I'm too lazy to go DL the issues... I mean, go out and buy the issues like everyone does.

None of those sound very multiversal though to me even with your descriptions.


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I'm just going to accept all these as I'm too lazy to go DL the issues... I mean, go out and buy the issues like everyone does.

None of those sound very multiversal though to me even with your descriptions.


Gimme a sec. I'll see if I have the scans handy.


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Gimme a sec. I'll see if I have the scans handy.
Sounds like you're about to go *buy* some comics.


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I have like every notable feat for Thor saved across 3 photobucket accounts. Back in the day I'd just log in to HC and copy/paste shit from my respect thread. Now it's down, so I have to search through all those scans. I mean comics.


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Well, I'm going to go do something productive. I'd say I'd see your scans (that you scanned yourself obviously), but I probably won't.

Someone better repost them is all I'm saying.


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Masterson Thor and Dargo Ktor collide hammers:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...tterCosmos1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...tterCosmos2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...tterCosmos3.jpg

I can't find the scene where the Tomorrow Man describes what his going to do with the power or the Multiversal God Blast. I did post the God Blast in the Character Ownage thread a while back.


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I am possibly the biggest X-Man fanboy on this site. And I honestly do not see the pair take on Asgard under scenario one. Much less 2, 3, and so on.

Even without Thor, and Odin. You have to factor in Beta Ray Bill, Loki, and the entire Asgardian race, plus its mystic weapons/items. Thats too many, too good, and too much weapons to overcome by any pair of Top Tier characters.


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[B]As far as I know, Black Bolt was stated to be using electron manipulation, which is basically his power set. Vulcan was able to match that with his energy manipulation. How that transmits to resisting Enchantresses matter manipulation I do not know. Yea he rebuilt himself. She turns him into a tree.
Electron manipulation is matter manipualtin and he both resisted and repaired himself afterwards. Obviously her transmutation powers are of a diffetrent nature as they are magic.

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She transmuted Thor and Balder into half trees, she's transmuted some random Asgardian into a tree. IIRC, right before the Avenger's/Defender's war, Amora transmuted the Black Knight, and the spell was so powerful that Classic Doctor Strange awas not able to change him back. At least for a while. If I wanted to get really exotic, I could simply argue she pulls out his soul. IIRC, she did that in New X-men. She could also simply paralyze him. Or turn him into pure light. Albeit she did that to Dazzler. Heck, Amora once turned back time in the Marvel reality to undo the last few days.
still not that frequent IMO, but I'll concede she may atempt them. Question is whether or not any energy based attack she throws at him will work.

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She recently withstood what Hela was dishing. Besides she's created barriers before.
Barriers could be absorbed or dispelled, saying she is more durable than what hella can dish out at her max is nonsense. I'd say his maximum power output is still above her durabilty.

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When did he show super speed? I know he can fly at faster than light speeds but I've never seen him utilize it in combat. Amora can teleport.
pretty good reaction feats during his fights and decent navigation while flying. Definitely faster than baseline human.

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Even if you include his mystical absorption, I can just argue she blasts him with a spell his not powerful enough to stop ala Havok.

Warlock's most powerful feat is transmuting that dead planet. One shot killing the Hulk and later on Nightmare I believe pisses on that.

The way she recently performed against the amped Hela pisses on everything I've seen Vulcan do.


That I doubt.

He easily defeated the Magus's by eating his power and he was easily much more powerfull than she is. To prove she can reach the level of power Havok used to overload him, you'd have to show a display of power from her that trumps what a sundipped havok can do and seen as he only has feats against vulcan that's impossible to do. So far, no other energy manipulator has got the best of him.

I disagree and this sounds an awful lot like the thanos didnt get killed by odin argument.

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Electron manipulation is matter manipualtin


When has Black Bolt's power been described as matter manipulation? That's something you'd get from a character like Sersi. He has the ability to manipulate ambient electrons around him which gives him his ability to amp, fly etc. It's the reason his voice is so destructive. This ability also gives him the power to manipulate matter and energy.

His power set in of itself is not considered matter manipulation by writers. At least not in the sense we're talking about. Every time an opponent withstands a blast of his energy, I don't consider that a feat of resisting matter manipulation.

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and he both resisted and repaired himself afterwards. Obviously her transmutation powers are of a diffetrent nature as they are magic.


He trumped Black Bolt's powers with his own energy manipulation. Seriously, all they were did was toss energy at each other. Concession accepted.

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still not that frequent IMO, but I'll concede she may atempt them. Question is whether or not any energy based attack she throws at him will work.


Lulz.

All Warlock did was throw energy that happened to be mystical at Vulcan as far as I recall. That would be different than tossing a spell I'd wager. And Enchantress isn't an energy being in the sense Warlock was in that issue. I'm guessing it's because his a quantum magician or whatever that means.

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Barriers could be absorbed or dispelled, saying she is more durable than what hella can dish out at her max is nonsense. I'd say his maximum power output is still above her durabilty.


And could just as easily be put back up. Enchantress withstood attacks from a raging Hela equipped with the Twilight Sword. That right there is more power than Vulcan could even hope for in his wet dreams.

Then it's pretty great that what you say is not in of itself evidence.

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pretty good reaction feats during his fights and decent navigation while flying. Definitely faster than baseline human.


I don't care if his faster than baseline human. Speed isn't going to be a factor in this fight. Dodging energy attacks is about as far as speed will go in such a fight.

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He easily defeated the Magus's by eating his power and he was easily much more powerfull than she is.


Prove it. His greatest feat is transmuting a planet sized object. Impressive. Transmuting Thor is more impressive.

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To prove she can reach the level of power Havok used to overload him, you'd have to show a display of power from her that trumps what a sundipped havok can do and seen as he only has feats against vulcan that's impossible to do. So far, no other energy manipulator has got the best of him.


Havok was dipped into a f*cking star. That's about it. With your line of thinking you could argue that he was more powerful than Odin because we don't know his limitations. Silly logic is silly. Amora has created spells to ward off the effects of the World Tree. Crazy amount of power.

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I disagree and this sounds an awful lot like the thanos didnt get killed by odin argument.


Oh yea, why? Lulz. Enchantress actually stood her ground for a bit, and IIRC, temporarily knocked Hela out with the teleportation spell.


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