lmao. Phenominal indeed. Thanos did a 180 and turned into a whiny pussy. The characterization was so terrible that it turned even Quasar into a pussy. They need to remove DnA off the cosmic scene stat and put Slott or Parker on.
As for Thanos return, it better not be about him wanting to destroy the universe because he wants revenge. Where's Giffin to fix this mess?
DnA have done good stuff for the cosmic scene, Thanos being probably the character who got the shaft the most in their takes. They should've left him alone, but again, it's a fan favorite.
DnA do a great job when they have time to flesh out a storyline. But when you have to trim the story into cliffnotes, they don't do so well. TI was meant to be a larger story, which Dan Abnett alluded to a while back.
Agree about Giffen. But he's prolly never coming back to Marvel.
^^^ Not really. They were just balanced out by a great- and knowledgeable- editor and a supremely talented writer in Keith Giffen. Bill Roseman was good, but he was no Andy Schmit.
DnA's strength is in high concept sci-fi and Lovecraftian horror themes. They do fine when they are focused on one or two projects ie; Nova and Gotg. But not so well when juggling too many balls I.e. Nova, gotg, WOK, TI, Annihilators, Heroes for hire, new mutants, Infestation etc.
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DnA didn't really peaked at Annihilation. They were never really event writers. Conquest, WOK, and TI are all mediocre or horrible. They have a talent for generating awesome ideas and concepts but their execution of most event storyline tend to be nothing exciting. Nova was great. GOTG was even better as DnA touched upon everything from the Badoon, Warlock/Magus/UCT future, 31st Century GOTG, and even the Emperor Vulcan storyline. Bringing in the Phalanx and Ultron in as the villains of Conquest and Warlock as a champion of life along with Technarchary Warlock made it epic. The writing, however, was less than stellar tho. And now Annihilators teaming up with a Space Knight to fight the Dire Wraiths, you get the point. Book one's writing was just poor.
They can work one or two projects. Add in a third and it gets wobbly. Add in a forth and all hell breaks loose. Right now they're doing Annihilators, Heroes for hire, New Mutants and the Infestation event for IDW. Not to mention they just finished Ironman/Thor, which was also terrible.
The quality of gotg never waned though. At least not imo. Nova waned after WOK, both in art and story. The only reason I continued to buy it at that point was just to support Marvel cosmic. In particular Nova, whom I didn't want to see disappear into obscurity for another decade or so.
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You're right, the Guardians held quite up during their run. I'd agree with A&L giving weak events, but to be fair events are kind of weaksauce most of the time, I was just glad to get the focus in less popular characters such as the Inhumans.
I'm digging the concept, not the dialog. And yeah, who thought it was a good idea to put them on multiple books like this? Eventually their gonna sound cliche when they have so many characters saying the same thing. Annihilators have atleast 8 characters with different personalities. Add in the characters of those other books and how in the world does Marvel think that these two would accurately write all these different personalities and not make it sound the same. :/
And that's the whole problem with Thanos. He's accomplished what every villain could only dream of. At first he gained the Cosmic Cube which was near universal in power during it's time. Then came the Infinity Gauntlet which was far greater in scope. The final straw came with The End where he destroys everything; the poor guy became redundant. The best thing was when Starlin changed Thanos into an anti-hero and Giffen finishing up Starlin's work in Annihilation.
How many times can a guy become God or desire to destroy the universe without it becoming silly? But yeah, Hickman should get a shot. Heck, I think some of the other writers should be given a shot at picking the cosmic character of their choice and write a 3 book mini. Best selling book should get an on-going.
I love DnA, but I have to agree with this: in Thanos Imperative, Thanos was portrayed like a retarded emo. They give him respect by showing how powerful he was, but we were far from the "Ice cold mother****er" of Starlin.
I like Giffen's Thanos better. Aside from him being pissed about coming back to life I never thought DnA captured the essence of the character quite right.
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The character portrayal wasn't bad. He was given everything he wanted and had it taken away so for the circumstances this change was justified. He still outsmarted Mar-vell and did this on his own without telling anyone so even while pissed he still was on his game. Him still not being to go to death sent him over the edge after he once again completed the mission so of course he flipped. The man is in love people.
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