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the Darkone
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Cyttorak>Shuma Gorath>>>>>Zom>Eternity>Galactus

Okay you are on crack for making this statement ^! erm

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Considering how badly Shuma defeated Odin, I would say that he takes this handily.

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Considering how badly Shuma defeated Odin, I would say that he takes this handily.

This is news to me! Do you recall which comic this event was from?

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This is news to me! Do you recall which comic this event was from?

I'm sorry; that was actually a dream I had. Somehow I got confused. Anyway, it happened, but it is probably not cannon.

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Someone said few days ago that Marvel needs complete revamp and retconn and they mentioned DC does this every so often.
I agree too.
Once the hierarchy is then established stories should stick within this hierarchy and not involve stupid plot devices to determine a battle.
Also the constant upgrade of characters such as Superman, Hulk and Thor is pathetic, just tell us what their powers are, where they place and then write all stories involving characters around their level.
Instead of Superman 1 million, why not just keep Superman at his same level and create a new character with same powers as this new Superman?
This wont happen but another thing I would like to see if everyone's powers downgraded so that they are powerful but not stupidly powerful.
For instance a human being mutant can become so powerful they can reality warp the entire UNIVERSE? How would that be possible in any way by just 1 being on 1 planet?
I do have imagination but also I have BS detector.
Stories should focus on characters, rivalries and great battles.

Maybe they don't do it, because KMC debates wouldn't last long if everyone agreed on a character's place. *cough* Wolverine *cough*

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You're the same fool/zealot that was adamant that Marvel editorial opinion is not high on Cyttorak and that's why they 'keep him out of cosmic events' or something of the sort.

But when an actual top marvel brass states the hierarchy and terms of address that outright contradicts your incessant pleads that Cyttorak is nothing and that Shuma is easily above him, or that Cy is a simple god and not an abstract entity, you move your goal post to one that 'he never wrote them so he's wrong'

I'm sorry that you're butt hurt enough to believe your stance is more credible than something close to "Word of God's". But whatever.

Hahaha, wtf are you even talking about?

Brevoort's forum post is not even close to "close to Word of God's" or even official Marvel canon. You sound like that Cyttorak/Juggernaut fanboy Kenshiroo on comicvine laughing

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Cyttorak easily. Cyttorak has all of Juggernaut's feats to his name - like with Trion Juggernaut punching holes through reality and D'Spayre being able to control the fabric of reality with Cyttorak's power. Gorath doesn't have any of that.

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A lot of these cosmic entities are like posters on battleboards: The entities are omnipotent in their own dimensions as the posters are always correct in their own minds.

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Cyttorak easily. Cyttorak has all of Juggernaut's feats to his name - like with Trion Juggernaut punching holes through reality and D'Spayre being able to control the fabric of reality with Cyttorak's power. Gorath doesn't have any of that.

Magik was able to waltz right into Cyttorak's realm and he had no idea who she was. Meanwhile, Strange had to fuse with a chaos lord and all other sorts of black magic just to even reach Shuma's realm without dying from the potency of the realm's energy.

Shuma >>>>> Cyttorak

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Cyttorak>Shuma Gorath>>>>>Zom>Eternity>Galactus

His statement contradicts whats been display on panel and statements:

1. Cyttorak has no feats what so ever, just pure speculation, Cyttorak could be Elder God status

2. It's been proven Cyttorak was banished to red crimson dimension

3. Shuma Gorath if enters 616 universes would destroy galaxies just because of his presence

feats, statements and panel proof has Eneteriy=FP (Taa II) Galactus> Normal Galactus> Shuma Gorath> > Zom>> Cytorrak

stop wanking Cyttorak!!

Jul 19th, 2012 09:43 PM

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Cytorrak is just cool because of the limitless power he can grant someone who has free will. I don't think Cytorrak has any real authority like Galactus, but at the same time neither does Shuma Gorath. I'd say as long as Cytorrak wants to win he probably could but if he succumbs to being ridiculously angry Shuma can probably win

i don't think it'd be a stomp for either side, it could go either way

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