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BullwinkleMoose
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By Definition a fully backed Spectre has received enough Power from Presence to accomplish whatever task he has been assigned.

Normal Spectre gets stomped, but this is a fully backed Spectre.

Mar 31st, 2011 02:02 AM

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By Definition a fully backed Spectre has received enough Power from Presence to accomplish whatever task he has been assigned.

Doesn't save him from getting oneshotted.

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@OV: Spectre isn't a supreme being though, so I don't see how that matters.

So you think only a Supreme Being can beat the Saint?

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Spectre dodges the bullets until he puts the smack down on SOK. Haven't you guys seen Matrix?

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So you think only a Supreme Being can beat the Saint?

Or maybe he thinks the saint can kill spectre or anywhere around his level.

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What I thought funny was that the Saint's guns could be fired at insane speeds, never missed, and never needed reloading yet for some reason (Rule of Cool I guess) he had two of them.

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Doesn't save him from getting oneshotted.

That is where you are wrong. If the Presence has given him the Power to win that includes the ability to withstand the opponent's attacks.

A fully backed Spectre would laugh at Sok.

Mar 31st, 2011 02:07 AM

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That is where you are wrong. If the Presence has given him the Power to win that includes the ability to withstand the opponent's attacks.

A fully backed Spectre would laugh at Sok.

Refer an issue number and an instance of a fully backed Spectre. It seems to me you are just saying he's unbeatable based on nothing more than your opinion. Back it up.

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Refer an issue number and an instance of a fully backed Spectre. It seems to me you are just saying he's unbeatable based on nothing more than your opinion. Back it up.

I'm basing it on the fact that by Definition in order to defy a Supreme Being you have to have power equal that Supreme Being.

Do you believe that it is Impossible for The Presence to give any Being enough power to defeat SOK?

Mar 31st, 2011 02:11 AM

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I'm basing it on the fact that by Definition in order to defy a Supreme Being you have to have power equal that Supreme Being.

Do you believe that it is Impossible for The Presence to give any Being enough power to defeat SOK?

I am asking for you to back your claims. You can't just make things up. I can't just say Hulk wins because he keeps getting angrier and angrier to where his power rivals Odin's or Zeus' since his power is only limited by his anger. I can use feats of what he has done on panel to support my case just like you can. If you can't then concede the point.

A backed spectre isn't supreme unless you have proof.

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Mar 31st, 2011 02:14 AM

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The Spectre being involved is irrelevant.

Presence fully backing Rhino would stomp SOK also.

You must believe that it is impossible for Presence to give anyone enough power to win vs SOK since Presence cannot back anyone more than he is in this case ("fully backed")

Mar 31st, 2011 02:18 AM

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The Spectre being involved is irrelevant.

Presence fully backing Rhino would stomp SOK also.

You must believe that it is impossible for Presence to give anyone enough power to win vs SOK since Presence cannot back anyone more than he is in this case ("fully backed")

Then back up your case with an example from a comic. You acting like your opinion is a fact while based off of nothing in print isn't making a case.

Sok wins based on the comics he oneshot kills him.

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The only way SOK can win is if Presence doesn;t have enough power to allow Spectre to live, which is only true if Sok>Presence.

Even though the thread says Spectre, it is really asking if SOK has enough power to Defy Presence.

Mar 31st, 2011 02:22 AM

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This is a super lame topic.

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Originally posted by BullwinkleMoose
The only way SOK can win is if Presence doesn;t have enough power to allow Spectre to live, which is only true if Sok>Presence.

Even though the thread says Spectre, it is really asking if SOK has enough power to Defy Presence.

Sok has the power to defeat the spectre this thread isn't about the presence vs. sok.

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a "fully backed spectre", much like a full powered galactus is really just hyperbole on stilts. just use COIE spectre (or does he have better showings?) and BCA Galactus as their "strongest"

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What I thought funny was that the Saint's guns could be fired at insane speeds, never missed, and never needed reloading yet for some reason (Rule of Cool I guess) he had two of them.

Zombieland rule#2 the Double Tap. :-p

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So you think only a Supreme Being can beat the Saint?

No.

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SOK's guns fail on undead. Spectre isn't technically alive. Hell, we never saw them on work on any abstract beings.

Therefore..... I do not believe they will work on God's vengeance. Especially considering Spectre alone shits on Preacher God's feats.

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