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Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, there was no denial by him of sexual activity, I don't think. I didn't read or hear that anywhere. Obviously, some sexual activity occurred. But was it consensual? I hope so. I don't like predators. I know it's almost sad that I'm making this distinction, but I would rather that lady be looking to make money and/or get fame than an actual sexual assault to have occurred.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
What I'm surprised about : if he has so many enemies AND he's a rapist...at 62, it's far more likely that he would have other accusers come out of the woodwork to also accuse him of the same. Where are they? They usually pop up the first or second day of the accusations.

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Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
I agree, really. Besides, there have been shows all day about this, with dozens of testimonies from people that have met him either professionally or as friends and all of them have been positive.

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Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Would suck to know he's an assaulter in many ways, the scariest being that it would tell me just about anyone I know could be one.

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Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Would suck to know he's an assaulter in many ways, the scariest being that it would tell me just about anyone I know could be one.

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Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Besides, there have been shows all day about this, with dozens of testimonies from people that have met him either professionally or as friends and all of them have been positive.

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Originally posted by inimalist
guys, evil people don't exist in some Walt Disney type world where they cackle and have fortresses with blood all over the walls.

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Originally posted by inimalist
you know what the neighbours and FAMILIES of serial killers say about them when they find out their actions?

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Really?



I know, I know. It's just that, my first experience with a truly vile person occurred many many years ago and it was quite shocking because I had so closely associated with that person.


Like I said, I'm more jaded and don't think it impossible for anyone to turn out to be an "evil."

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Originally posted by dadudemon
I didn't get into crime/criminology/serial killers until after I had an interest in writing horror which was in my 20s. So, no, when I was a "kid", I had no clue what people would say about those folks.

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Originally posted by inimalist
fair enough, I suppose I'm more taken aback by wickerman than your story. Does he expect devil horns and a tail on bad people? We should be able to judge someone by what their friends think of them rather than evidence about what they have done?

by that logic, we would have never caught BTK, Gacy, Bundy, etc

ah. I was reading that stuff when I was 13-14, so I've been cynical of "good people" for a long time. I read it mostly because of how fascinating the psychology was, not that I'm into death (I'm really actually not, I hate horror movies and the like)

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Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
You should really read a bit more of the articles on the subject first. The guy not only had a HUGE amount of enemies, was considered the most likely next president of France, held the biggest international loan shark in the palm of his hand.

There is an extremely high chance that the guy was set up. Shouldn't jump to conclusions like that.

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Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
There is no evidence, and your several posts implying I'm naive are misplaced. You assume I expect bad guys to have cloaks and villain mustaches? By that logic, I assume you think every single person you meet is a serial killer and rapist. See what I did there?

Sexual predators that I have read about in the papers or news or the internet (that's me saying I didn't do a lengthy study) are usually NOT in the eye of literally hundreds of people a day, with so many acquaintances, etc. You can attribute the fact that they "seemed perfectly normal" to the fact that they interacted with like 10 people their entire life, 3 of which are the ones being interviewed.

I imagine that someone that had those tendencies and who interacted with this many people would in fact have been picked up on by at least some people. Hearing unanimously positive comments on him from lots of people, (not just the next door neighbor, family members and local priest) and seeing how the guy acts professionally is what I mean by being shocked if it turns out he actually did it.

This underlying belief that if you were in the eye of lots of people someone would eventually pick up on something if you were an assaulter is why I mentioned my acquaintances.

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Originally posted by inimalist
you... you do know there is a long history of people reporting this type of abuse against Strauss-Khan, yes?

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IMF accuser in apt. for HIV vics
Pad under name of AIDS group

Dominique Strauss-Kahn may have more to worry about than a possible prison sentence.
The IMF chief's alleged sex-assault victim lives in a Bronx apartment rented exclusively for adults with HIV or AIDS, The Post has learned.
The hotel maid, a West African immigrant, has occupied the fourth-floor High Bridge pad with her 15-year-old daughter since January -- and before that, lived in another Bronx apartment set aside by Harlem Community AIDS United strictly for adults with the virus and their families.

The Post has not been able to ascertain whether the maid, 32, has HIV/AIDS because of medical confidentiality laws.
But the agency rents apartments only for adults with the disease. A Harlem United worker said at least one adult in the household has to be HIV-positive or have AIDS to qualify for one of their units. A healthy adult with a child with HIV or AIDS is not eligible.
"The [current] apartment isn't rented under her name. Harlem [Community AIDS] United places their tenants in our building," explained an employee of the apartment building's property manager, Chaim Gross, of Brooklyn.
The maid had previously lived in another High Bridge apartment rented by Harlem United, a source said. She had moved there with her child in 2008.
According to the agency, it is not uncommon for people with HIV/AIDS to move around.
Her lawyer, Jeffrey Shapiro, and a close family friend said the chambermaid is a widow who lives alone with her daughter. Public records list her as the only adult in the current apartment and the only adult having lived in her previous apartment.
Neighbors also say it was just her and the child in both places.
The Harlem United workers who talked to The Post were not specifically addressing the maid's living situation, only their agency's housing policies. Officials at Harlem United declined to comment because of confidentiality.
The woman has accused France's leading presidential contender of forcing her to perform oral sex on him twice and then trying to rape her as she tried to clean his Sofitel hotel room in Times Square on Saturday.
She told cops that after he sodomized her, she spit out his semen on the floor, a law-enforcement source said. Investigators are running DNA tests on the sample.
According to the federal Centers for Disease Control: "It is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex."
Strauss-Kahn's lawyers declined comment last night.

The humiliated, 62-year-old suspect was ordered held without bail Monday and placed under suicide watch at Rikers Island -- reduced to wearing shoes without laces and a medical device to make sure he's breathing.
"He did not attempt to commit suicide. He went through an evaluation by a shrink, and they put him on watch," a Correction source said of the multimillionaire politico, who has an entire jail wing to himself.
The suspect's defense team has suggested that the pair was involved in a consensual romp.
The alleged victim, whose name is being withheld by The Post, remained in the protective custody of the Manhattan DA's Office.

The woman was under extreme security -- with investigators even intercepting her phone calls to keep her away from possible attempts by Strauss-Kahn cronies to get her to stop cooperating, sources told The Post.
One high-powered lawyer, who was among those trying to reach her to offer to rep her, said, "She could make $6 million, maybe more, just by shutting her mouth."
The maid's close family friend said he received a frantic call from the woman about an hour after her alleged attack, as detectives brought her to the emergency room at St. Luke's Hospital.
"She rang me, and she said, 'Somebody has done something really bad to me. I've been attacked,' " he told the Daily Mail. "She was crying all the time."
Shapiro said his client learned Strauss-Kahn's name only a "day or two" after the alleged attack.
The lawyer added, "There is no civil litigation pending or contemplated at this point.
"She was reunited with her daughter last night," he added.
The developments came as law-enforcement sources said hotel staffers failed to alert cops to the incident for up to three hours -- as Strauss-Kahn fled his room.
Hotel video cameras show the maid running from his room after the alleged attack, which occurred after noon, and into the maid service area on the floor, one source said. There, she called her boss, who arrived 10 to 15 minutes later, and then called another supervisor.
It took 10 to 15 minutes more for that boss to arrive, the source said. Hotel security was then called. About 10 to 15 minutes later, another security worker arrived and called his boss. Meanwhile, Strauss-Kahn apparently fled his room even before the first boss even arrived. It's not clear when cops were finally called. One source said it was after about 3:30 p.m., when Strauss-Kahn called the hotel looking for his cellphone; another said around 2:30 p.m. He was nabbed on a plane just about to depart JFK Airport for France at 4:40 p.m.
A Sofitel rep could not immediately be reached.
Meanwhile, a female reporter for a European paper told the Times of London that last November Strauss-Kahn offered her an exclusive interview, "but I had to go and spend the weekend with him in Paris or somewhere."
"He was incredibly insistent . . . He made it almost explicit that I had to sleep with him for the interview."

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Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
The only one I was aware of was the 31 year old novelist. There are more?

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Originally posted by inimalist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domini...xual_misconduct

+ he is thrice married (nothing concrete about that, but far less of a conspiracy to think he drove off 2 women than he is getting framed here)

and a reporter claimed he tried to get her to have sex with him for an interview [link below]

not only that, the woman assaulted in this case has already been offered 6 mil to keep her mouth closed

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/...43
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Originally posted by inimalist
long history of people reporting this type of abuse against Strauss-Khan

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Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Surely all men that have been married 3 times are sexual deviants !!!

As for the 6 mil I think you mean to say a lawyer told her she could get that money, not that she was actually offered that money.

So the novelist + a reporter who is essentially saying he has a large sexual appetite are the



I see.

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Originally posted by jaden101
http://www.firstpost.com/world/the-...kahn-10581.html

http://www.time.com/time/world/arti...2072205,00.html

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...article2026021/

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Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Neither of those mention any actual sexual assaults though except for the novelist.

I do however agree that after reading all of that I see he's got the markings of a megalomaniac who's used to pushing. Seems to me he's been successful sufficient times that this one time he may have pushed too hard.

Will have to see how the trial plays out.

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Originally posted by jaden101
I never said anything about other sexual assaults...I said his sexual deviancy has been getting covered up for years...And those articles back that up. At best many of his actions would've had him fired from any normal job several times over.

Lets say that for now the man clearly has boundary issues and doesn't know when to take know for an answer...He clearly has an animalistic nature when it comes to sexual desires that outweighs his ability to control himself within the bounds of socially acceptable behaviour.