Surtur, Seth, etc. are not that much greater than Destroyer in durability.
Odin is not above King Thor in blast power.
What feats by Odin compares to casually disintegrating Cap's shield or warping AND destroying adamantium WITH BLASTS?
Also you are arguing against the suspension of disbelief. Thor was supposed to have Odin's power plus his own (that means equal or greater power output).
You might as well say Savage Hulk is greater than WWH.
You are using a no limits fallacy for Mangog. If we take the highest thing Mangog has tanked then the combination of Superman and Thor's highest durability feats stacked is superior. Plus a billion billion beings is a finite limit. Thus a no limit fallacy is a fallacy.
What is the strongest Mangog was shown to be (a few times stronger than Thor). He didn't do much strength wise. He hit mjolnir back equal to Thor's strength. He lifted bridges and hit Thor without koing him, etc. After fighting Mangog Thor said Mangog was exaggerating a billion billion beings of power.
Thor-El can avoid any blast made by Odin with Mjolnir, using speed to evade, intangibility, shields, etc.
People believe that Mangog can give Odin problems in a straight fight.
Yet these two at their highest shown and stacked is greater than Mangog in everyway.
You are not thinking in terms of how the fight will go.
This being is vastly faster, not subject to CIS, can defend against any Odin attack, has the power to harm Odin, etc.
Guys, just stop feeding the troll. He knows nothing about Odin and therefore cannot be reasoned with.
/thread.
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How am I the troll when I'm the only one offering how the fight will go? Others are saying Odin wins without good reasoning. Feats alone don't make you win. That's not good reasoning. You have to logically connect the feats to what will happen in this fight in order to prove or provide evidence of who will win. That's the spirit of comic debating and how it started.
You know nothing of Odin nor Mangog.
You know nothing of Superman and Thor's best feats.
Using both Superman's and Thor's best durability feats stacked then they are more durable than Mangog.
Superman's best strength feats alone put him above Mangog in strength. Do you know Mangog's best strength feats?
So we have a being that's greater than Mangog in everyway. Yet Odin still stomps him? Yet Odin can't stomp Mangog in a straight fight.
With that said,
This being clears the gauntlet.
He beat Odin by bashing him. He will eventually fall. Odin can't harm this being because they have speed and reflexes to avoid, Mjolnir to block and absorb, intangibility options, and force field options.
They beat Galactus by again bashing him with Mjolnir. Flying into him at ftl speeds while avoiding or absorbing his attacks.
They beat Arishem by using hyperspace energy against him (as in my OP stipulations).
I don't see any stips towards Thor powers and abilities be taken away by Odin, you only said hammer enchantment and time stopping. Thor and hammer are two different things
Odin will still beat that a$$, Odin can amp at will and counter Mjolner with thundstruck and Gungair" Spear of Heaven", Odin is vastly more versatile than Superman/Thor fusion.
Well that is what I meant. Otherwise what will be the point of leaving Mjolnir's powers and taking away Thor's? Doesn't Mjolnir grant Thor powers anyway?
Odin isn't that fast though.
Remember their speed stacks.
Yes Odin is more versatile but more versatile is a weakness when one doesn't have speed or time to decide or react on what to do. It's better to have a few simple yet effective powers instead of countless many to choose from.
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