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Delta1938
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I never said your agenda was in any way bad.

I read the rules (again) and still couldnt find featureless environment specifically stated. I found equal footing or some such, which i suppose a featureless environment COULD be...

I didn't even have an agenda. Delph kept citing the rules(and said they took it out in an edit), and as you saw, it's not in there, so I asked him where he gets it's in the rules. But with what Pr said, perhaps the mods should edit it back in.

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this is a very close fight imo. i'd take am for a slight majority due to his skill and speed, but, without the trident this really is very close. she is likely the stronger of the 2.

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she is likely the stronger of the 2.

I'm sorry but this can't be right. She struggled with 80-85 tons while Thing wanted to go for a higher set of weights.

AM has lifted subs and freaking CRUISE SHIPS and he didn't even look like he was breaking a sweat. These things weigh a LOT more than 85 tons.

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I'm sorry but this can't be right. She struggled with 80-85 tons while Thing wanted to go for a higher set of weights.

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Temporary amp, it's gone now.

My example is more recent too.

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I'm sorry but this can't be right. She struggled with 80-85 tons while Thing wanted to go for a higher set of weights.

AM has lifted subs and freaking CRUISE SHIPS and he didn't even look like he was breaking a sweat. These things weigh a LOT more than 85 tons.

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/cno/n87/faq.html

http://www.fairfieldluxurycruises.c...ise-ship-weigh-

Subs(that the U.S. Navy uses) weigh up to about 18,000 tons, and cruise ships weigh from 20,000 to 60,000 tons. So that's not much more than 80 tons. What WERE you thinking?

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Temporary amp, it's gone now.

My example is more recent too.

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The suit only helped her to balance out the new strength, so the suit was not the power upgrade. Can you prove that she lost her strength upgrade? Her not being able to compete with Thing sounds super strange.

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Aug 10th, 2014 03:25 PM

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I like She Hulk but Aquaman stomps. He has every physical advantage against her. He is faster, stronger, more durable, everything.

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I like She Hulk but Aquaman stomps. He has every physical advantage against her. He is faster, stronger, more durable, everything.

Kinda off-topic, but I always felt Aquaman got shafted in JLA/AVENGERS. I'm neither an expert on Orin or She-Hulk, but I've seen Aquaman do ok to going toe-to-toe Lobo, Olympian, and Deep Six members, all I see as quite a step above She-Hulk, plus taken shots from Malefic(Martian Manhunter's literal evil twin, who was pretty impressive in his handful of appearances, and while weakened from dehydration!!!), Despero(I think) and Amazo(not sue if canon) and do mostly ok. So how poorly he did against her always seemed like a low showing to me.

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The suit only helped her to balance out the new strength, so the suit was not the power upgrade. Can you prove that she lost her strength upgrade? Her not being able to compete with Thing sounds super strange.

I know the suit wasn't the upgrade, it was to regulate her amped strength.

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AM destroys her.

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The suit only helped her to balance out the new strength, so the suit was not the power upgrade. Can you prove that she lost her strength upgrade? Her not being able to compete with Thing sounds super strange.

yep. i never heard she lost any strength either, nor that the amp was 'temporary'. would absolutely LOVE to see proof of that. if no proof is forthcoming, then concessions will be accepted. thumb up

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yep. i never heard she lost any strength either, nor that the amp was 'temporary'. would absolutely LOVE to see proof of that. if no proof is forthcoming, then concessions will be accepted.

Please look at the post directly above this one.

Thank you.

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Kinda off-topic, but I always felt Aquaman got shafted in JLA/AVENGERS. I'm neither an expert on Orin or She-Hulk, but I've seen Aquaman do ok to going toe-to-toe Lobo, Olympian, and Deep Six members, all I see as quite a step above She-Hulk, plus taken shots from Malefic(Martian Manhunter's literal evil twin, who was pretty impressive in his handful of appearances, and while weakened from dehydration!!!), Despero(I think) and Amazo(not sue if canon) and do mostly ok. So how poorly he did against her always seemed like a low showing to me.

*DC/Marvel meeting*

DC: OK guys, let's thrash this crossover out. So we'll each get a pick of five characters from our companies to win, and five to draw, agreed?

Marvel: OK, sure! You go first!.

DC: We pick Superman to win.

Marvel: Oh, erm...OK.

DC: hey guys, bubbeleh, chin up! You can have Aquaman!

Marvel:......

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*DC/Marvel meeting*

DC: OK guys, let's thrash this crossover out. So we'll each get a pick of five characters from our companies to win, and five to draw, agreed?

Marvel: OK, sure! You go first!.

DC: We pick Superman to win.

Marvel: Oh, erm...OK.

DC: hey guys, bubbeleh, chin up! You can have Aquaman!

Marvel:......

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*DC/Marvel meeting*

DC: OK guys, let's thrash this crossover out. So we'll each get a pick of five characters from our companies to win, and five to draw, agreed?

Marvel: OK, sure! You go first!.

DC: We pick Superman to win.

Marvel: Oh, erm...OK.

DC: hey guys, bubbeleh, chin up! You can have Aquaman!

Marvel:......

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Kinda off-topic, but I always felt Aquaman got shafted in JLA/AVENGERS. I'm neither an expert on Orin or She-Hulk, but I've seen Aquaman do ok to going toe-to-toe Lobo, Olympian, and Deep Six members, all I see as quite a step above She-Hulk, plus taken shots from Malefic(Martian Manhunter's literal evil twin, who was pretty impressive in his handful of appearances, and while weakened from dehydration!!!), Despero(I think) and Amazo(not sue if canon) and do mostly ok. So how poorly he did against her always seemed like a low showing to me.

Aquaman was written horribly through those books in general.

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Aquaman was written horribly through those books in general.

What was your problem with it? Characterization, power level, or both?

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Aquaman.

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So if She-Hulk is back to her normal levels, all she has to do is work out some and then she can take Champion lever beings and so forth right? (God thats stupid).

Anyways, written as normal, Aquaman beats her down. If Jen hit the gym on any kind of regular intervals, She-Hulk beats him (and just about any character it seems).

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