The Joint Chiefs have advised Obama to not send in ground troops as it would be a slaughter, these ISIS guys are hardened veterans hammered into shape by countless campaigns in the forge of war. They can easily engage and take out an enemy 15+ times their size.
I'll bet you there are clerics who have already formally denounced ISIS. The thing about Islam (and really all religions) is that the temporal hierarchies are only effective in controlling adherents to a point. All it takes is some mother****er who thinks he's God's chosen instrument and suddenly the words of Popes, Clerics, Ayatollahs, and what have you mean nothing because they're really just guys and they don't know God's will as well as he does. The other issue is that with Sunnis there isn't really any kind of political hierarchy with the clergy, or hasn't been since the time of the Caliphates.
As it is, very few Muslims actually believe that groups like ISIS are carrying out God's will, and the ones who do aren't likely to be swayed by declarations and symbolic actions of religious figureheads.
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“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
Last edited by Omega Vision on Aug 20th, 2014 at 10:29 PM
It is outrageous. This whole thing. Why can't their be a task force that arrests people belonging to groups recognised as international terrorists? Or can they do that and their just crap?
Anyhow my heart goes to the US right now. I know it was just one man but just how it happened is just outrageous.
I disagree. The sick bastards made this guy make an anti-American statement about how our airstrikes are the cause of him being executed and then sawed his head off for the whole world to see. They even made him say "I wish I wasn't an American". Intensity and frequency of airstrikes should be increased several times over. A message has to be sent to terrorist thugs like this that the killing of American citizens will have dire consequences. We already knew how sick they were when they recently killed, kidnapped, and buried people alive including women and children over there. Now, they've gone and murdered an American.
Fortunately, I haven't seen this video. I did some searches for it online because my curiosity got the better of me but it seems to have been removed from everywhere already. I'm actually kind of glad that I can't watch the video. I only saw still images of this poor man beheaded. He was lying face down on the ground with his head on his back. It made me wince a little when the image popped-up on my screen.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
Last edited by Star428 on Aug 21st, 2014 at 01:24 AM
1) They already know that. 2) "Sending a message" is not a good reason to go war, especially when our country is already broke and tired of war.
The only reason we should go to war is for self-defense, at this point. ISIS can make all the anti-US statements they want so long as they keep that shit in the Middle East where no one cares.
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"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
LOL. Where did I say we should go to war? Please enlighten me. I never said that so please don't put words in my mouth. I said the intensity and frequency of airstrikes should be increased. That does not mean I think we should engage in an all-out war with them.
Oh, btw, it's funny how you quoted only partial of my sentence as if I were calling them sick because they just made him make an anti-American statement. Way to quote somebody out of context, dude. I'll remember that next time I quote something of yours.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
Last edited by Star428 on Aug 21st, 2014 at 02:01 AM
"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
Pointless? LOL. Ok, whatever you say. You said we should do nothing. I disagreed and said airstrike intensity should be increased. But, since you in your all wiseness declared it "pointless" I guess that makes it so.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.