Personally I don't see why someone would put Bane in the top 5 and Zannah below Maul. There really wasn't much of a difference between them in their fight.
He was a master swordsman, but even if his skills aren't up to snuff he was able to defeat a superior duelist so that's clearly something he can overcome with his... whatever the hell he did. And I tend to rate duelists based on their combat power, speed, strength etc rather than skill. And Plagueis is stupidly powerful, stronk and fast.
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I mean Agen Kolar and Saesee Tinn are also master duelists. Being a master duelist really doesn't mean much. And while he does have good strength and speed feats, I have a hard time seeing why you would put him above guys like Dooku and Caedus both of whom have some crazy good saber feats to their name unlike Plags.
lol i'm sorry but that's a hard one to figure out. Anakin & Kenobi are stated to be equals dueling-wise. prior to the events of RoTS Obi-Wan held his own against Dooku- well, Dooku did exceptionally well, but Obi-wan wasn't getting "owned" there - in the season 6 fight. I mean that fight was primarily a duel and Dooku wasn't "stomping" or "ragdolling" Obi-Wan. So take that for what you will.
Also i didn't add Tulak Hord or The HoT due to lack of information - especially with Tulak Hord.
Holding your own in close-combat against force users without having a connection yourself >
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This is sabers only, so it doesn't matter if he didn't get ragdolled.
Obi-Wan would have died at least three times in that fight if Anakin weren't present. Should be noted, though, that it was also Dooku's best performance yet.
Regardless, Kenobi is not superior. Equal, if you're stretching it.
Aren't Kolar and Tiin among the greatest swordsman the Jedi have ever produced? I mean, sure they can't really compete with the truly top 10 because they're not nearly powerful enough but I doubt they'd be embarrassed in pure swordsmanship. I mean, in terms of skill I wouldn't even say Bane is necessarily superior to them. He'd curbstomp them in a duel though.
Buuuut anyway, as I said I rate physical stats higher than skill. And I'd say Plagueis would beat those two based on stats. And he's shown to be able to compensate for a disparity in skill and ability and win anyway.
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Oh, I did forget to add Ulic to the list. He's #4 then, with "everyone else" becoming #5.
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I wouldn't put the Hero of Umbara...
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1.HoT(Put him here cause he is possibly the strongest jedi up to his time and specialized in melee combat) - Not sure about it though.
2.Kun
3.Malgus
4.Emperor's Wrath
5.Ulic Qel-Droma
Anakin is not better than Obi-Wan... Jeezes... He had hard time to defeat Asajj Ventress (and in some occasions he failed) and even Bariss Offee gave hard to time to him. Emokin fans needs to be stopped.
Just because he gain advantage from Dooku's weakness to kinetic attacks that doesn't make him at the same level with Dooku,
if he was so good as Dooku, Anakin shouldn't let Dooku to ragdoll Obi-Wan in first place while they were fighting 2 v 1.
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lol i'm sorry but that's a hard one to figure out. Anakin & Kenobi are stated to be equals dueling-wise. prior to the events of RoTS Obi-Wan held his own against Dooku- well, Dooku did exceptionally well, but Obi-wan wasn't getting "owned" there - in the season 6 fight. I mean that fight was primarily a duel and Dooku wasn't "stomping" or "ragdolling" Obi-Wan. So take that for what you will.
