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deathslash
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Most mid-high end street levelers today would beat the hell out of Cap from the 80's. It's not an impressive feat by today standards.

He smacked around Daredevil after he was already exhausted, Cap beat the hell out of him prior to that fight.

So far we have a loss against a powerless Cap, a loss against Bucky, and no notable victories. It's nice that he shot Wolverine but Black Panther has already stated that Wolverine's style of fighting is based on his damage soak, Wolverine probably wasn't even trying to dodge Crossbones gun fire.

They were a black ops team iirc, they weren't a team of Deadshots but they were still highly trained.

That still doesn't explain how crossbones held his own against agent venom and it also doesn't explain away his fights with cap during the 90's and 2000's. Yeah, Crossbones was fast enough to surprise bullseye with his quickdraw.

Now that I think about it, who has Talon actually beaten?

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Crossbones beat Cap in Brubaker's run though, when Cap was depressed or something.

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That still doesn't explain how crossbones held his own against agent venom and it also doesn't explain away his fights with cap during the 90's and 2000's. Yeah, Crossbones was fast enough to surprise bullseye with his quickdraw.

Now that I think about it, who has Talon actually beaten?

Now these are better feats, you say he held his own against Agent Venom correct? The same Venom that beat Cap? He didn't have powers correct? This is actually a feat worth mentioning.

Cap didn't enter the enhanced range until Brubaker started righting them, he had a few feats here and there prior like that shield missile feat, any earlier than that and Crossbones held his own against a peak human Cap.

Talon (Cobb) I believe has beaten Dick Grayson, but that's saying a lot since Dick in the New 52 has stalemated Batman and held his own against Midnighter.

There was also a Talon who fought the Birds of Prey. Don't recall how that fight went down though.

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Crossbones beat Cap in Brubaker's run though, when Cap was depressed or something.

That fight in the graveyard correct?

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That fight in the graveyard correct?

No, when they fight on the highway.

Crossbones stops the fight because Cap's not "in shape" or something.

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No, when they fight on the highway.

Crossbones stops the fight because Cap's not "in shape" or something.

I think I've seen that one