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Will Finn become a Jedi?
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Darth Thor
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Not in Visual Media, besides Pre-Viszla, who was able to stalemate Ahsoka Tano, IF that.

Hondo also went toe to toe with Skywalker for a bit with his electro staff.

Cad Bane did as well against Kenobi, but only for like 2 seconds tbh.

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Despite being incapable of calling upon the Force, he slammed Rey into a tree, slaughtered Finn,

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Read the novel.

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^ He clearly was capable of using the force when he TK'd Rey. And he probably would have lost to Finn without the Force.

The novel makes him out to be a proper Retard "toying" with Finn. If he's that badly hurt already, that's hardly the time to be "toying."

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"The hilt wobbled in the snow._Pulling it through the Force proved more strenuous than it should. The pain of Ren's wound clouded his concentration."

Taken from The Force Awakens Junior Novelization

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So his connection was hindered. That's different to him not being capable of using the Force.

You were making out in your statement that he beat them without even using the Force.

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Incapable, as in he couldn't reliably call upon it during the fight.

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As to Non-Force Sensitives using lightsabers, there's, you know, that comic where Leia, Han, and Chewbacca all used lightsabers(Leia obviously being the only one there remotely Force Sensitive), as well as the random Imperial agent that made Luke a gladiator.

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Kylo's training will be complete in the next film and this whole idea using the force makes you untouchable to non force users is simply a fan supported myth.

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Originally posted by Jmanghan
No they haven't.

Not in Visual Media, besides Pre-Viszla, who was able to stalemate Ahsoka Tano, IF that.

Ever hear of Grievous? Though, I suppose his cybernetics were of aid in that, it's still an example of non-Force sensitives being skilled with a lightsaber.

And lol, Viszla was driving Tano back, LMAO, and the fight was inconclusive.

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Either Finn is Force Sensitive, or Kylo Ren is the worst Force User in Sith History.

Getting tagged by any stormtrooper ever in Melee Combat under any circumstances is embarrassing if you're a Jedi or Sith.

It's not like there was loads of circumstances, Kylo being fatally injured, and emotionally conflicted. It's also not like Finn was among the top 1% of an Order of Stormtroopers trained to face Jedi, and still got stomped.

No, it's not like that, at all.

Seriously, quit grasping at straws and just accept we can have an interesting character that isn't, *gasps*, Force sensitive and move on.

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We can't say Kylo is one of thirst ever since his training was incomplete. Now if he gets his ass kicked in a fair fight against a non force sensitive who isn't extremely formidable then we can cross that bridge when we get there. In the meantime he's still a badass just nowhere near Kelvin Khan level. wink

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No, but Finn's already used a lightsaber in combat, in a movie.

So did Han when he cut open the space kangaroo thingy in ESB to keep Luke toasty.

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So did Han when he cut open the space kangaroo thingy in ESB to keep Luke toasty.

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Finn's already used a lightsaber in combat, in a movie.

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Ever hear of Grievous? Though, I suppose his cybernetics were of aid in that, it's still an example of non-Force sensitives being skilled with a lightsaber.

And lol, Viszla was driving Tano back, LMAO, and the fight was inconclusive.

It's not like there was loads of circumstances, Kylo being fatally injured, and emotionally conflicted. It's also not like Finn was among the top 1% of an Order of Stormtroopers trained to face Jedi, and still got stomped.

No, it's not like that, at all.

Seriously, quit grasping at straws and just accept we can have an interesting character that isn't, *gasps*, Force sensitive and move on.

Thats why she was dominating the fight as soon as they got outside and landed a saber strike on his jetpack? :/

Getting stomped implies you aren't comparable to that person whatsoever.

I honestly don't care what the novel says, because I base it on the visuals, Finn being pushed back does not equal him getting stomped.

Getting stomped is when a person ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS the other person with little effort.

Thats not what happened with Kylo Ren and Finn.

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