Q: Is Star Wars: Fact Files considering characters from the Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO video game, and in particular Star Wars: Fact File 22's article on Darth Bane page that labels him as more powerful than any Sith who came before him, in their analysis of information?
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A: Thank you for your query. If you mean 'The Old republic' Online computer game or the comic and books based on the computer games, not really as this isn’t cannon. It is possible our writer may have included some information into a relevant article, for example a planet/location that they visit in the game. But an actual card based solely on the ‘Knights of the Old republic' or 'The Old republic’ was never done. We hope that you have enjoyed the series so far and please let us know if we can be of any further assistance!
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Q: Thank you for your response. I really enjoy the publications! However, a lot of material featured within the Fact Files are not considered canon. They are under the "legends" umbrella. For example, the events described in the Fact Files for Darth Bane are from the "legends" continuity, not canon. Likewise, The Old Republic computer game is also considered "legends", hence why I am confused by the distinction you are drawing between other "legends" content like the Darth Bane trilogy, which is featured in the Fact Files, and then The Old Republic computer game. Can the author of the Fact Files verify that The Old Republic computer game is still not being considered within the Fact Files content despite it also being in the "legends" continuity. I ask because in Star Wars Fact File 22, it claims that Darth Bane is the most powerful Sith Lord in history, which is inconsistent with information from The Old Republic computer game that features characters like Revan and Emperor Vitiate. Due to this, some fans within the community are confused.
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A: Hi Andrew! Many thanks for your questions. Please see a response below directly from one of our editors. We hope this helps answer your questions:-
As you might imagine, there’s no simple answer to this, so bear with me while I give you some background. When we started the 2nd edition of the fact files in 2013, Lucasfilm had not yet been bought by Disney let alone implemented the Legends/canon criteria. We had 120 planned issues into which to fit an immense amount of content. Inthe years since the first edition of the Fact File, all 140 issues of that, there was an immense amount of information to add. We made the conscious decision to cover the history from a little before the Invasion of Naboo (including touching briefly on Darth Bane and a little bit of additional background to Republic history pre-Naboo) and then stop just after the Battle of Endor. We had no idea things were about to get complicated. After the buy-out, and as we continued to produce the Fact Files, the Lucasfilm Story Group in April 2014 decided that the only previous published materials considered canon were the six Star Wars films and the Clone Wars TV series. As you know, they also decided that all Expanded Universe material was re-termed Legends. At that point we were working on issue 40 of the Fact File and, all of a sudden, we’d ‘lost’ a huge wedge of content. That was… exciting. As you’re probably also very aware, some Legends content will be brought back into canon as it’s required by the likes of the new comics, the novels, and so on. Some of it will be largely intact, some of it altered (for example, the new canon origins of the B-wing pay tribute to old canon beautifully). As I said, complicated.
Darth Bane is an interesting case in point. We don’t know officially how much of his former background is still canon. We can only go by what’s been said so far in the new material and, at the time we went to print, Bane was as I wrote – the most powerful of the old Sith Lords. Arguably, Darth Sidious may have taken that crown. Mind you, until we know more about Bane’s past, that debate is set to rage on.
So far as the amazing Knights of the Old Republic material goes, it’s
strictly Legends for now. Whether that’ll change will entirely depend on the Story Group and people like Dave Filoni (all hail the Chosen One of the Mighty Hat). If KotOR makes it back into the new canon, we will reflect that in future publications. In the meantime, the 2nd Edition Fact File remains a testament to a moment in time when everything got complicated.
We’re proud of the fact that we were the first to cover certain moments of new canon (the fate of the Jedi Temple, for example) and that, despite everything going on in the dull old real world, we managed to stay coherent.
Will you be at Celebration in London this year? A bunch of us responsible for putting the magazines together will be around the De Agostini UK stand to chat about our Star Wars projects: past, present, and future. Do pop by and say hello if you’re around.
Thanks, Star Wars Fact File
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He was stupid (just the media guy, probably), but the guy from the second response was the person who specifically wrote the quote in the Fact Files. He knew what he was talking about.
__________________ "There is only Revan. Only he can shape this galaxy as it is meant to be shaped."
Actually, can you decipher this shit for me? Because he's kinda all over the place; I don't think he understands how canon and legends work, which is sad.
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Last edited by NewGuy01 on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 05:03 PM
what is the ****ing pandering lmao? this is no debate that is raging on lol. and if canon makes it like that then that seriously undermines sidious as a villain. 1000 years of improvement and the sith actually went down in power below bane.
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Refer here: "We can only go by what’s been said so far in the new material and, at the time we went to print, Bane was as I wrote – the most powerful of the old Sith Lords."
In other words, Darth Bane's the most powerful ancient Sith from the Canonverse, which was obvious when Yoda confronted him.
But note he also says such a claim can only be based off the new material and is thus limited, so guys like Revan aren't be included.
__________________ "There is only Revan. Only he can shape this galaxy as it is meant to be shaped."
He said "we don’t know officially how much of his former background is still canon," so he probably figured he could include some of it (which was stupid of him).
That being said, he also clarifies the accolade was specifically just on the new material we know of Bane, in which it's clear Bane > all the ancients in the Canonverse.
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So the material was written before the Canon/Legends split with the EU continuity in mind, and the body of the article refers to his Legends backstory? Lmao, my stance is unchanged.
Yeah of course it's theoretically canon since the fact file was released after the switch, however practically it should apply to Legends material since the entire background and context is Legends based.
An author's view doesn't overrule simple logic.
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It is his opinion lol, he's not an authority on Canon.
And he says the material was already written before the Disney takeover.
Which would mean Lehon, Revan, Zannah etc. are all Canon. Yet they are not in the Databank or Ultimate Star Wars - yeah, clearly the stuff written before the Canon/Legends split is still Legends, much like it was so with Force & Destiny.
Oct 23rd, 2016 04:57 PM
