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But now in Canada they want to try to make it so you absolutely have to call someone by their preferred pronoun.


Lol, Canada.


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Also this:



This is what I mean when I say they want to be victims.


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Who do i speak with and where do i go when i'm offended and have concerns about safe spaces?


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I guess Surtur, if I could explain in a different way, from my observation of the universe, everything is built upon connection, including scientific/mathematical laws, choice, purpose, understanding, power, and love. That's where my faith in God comes from as I identify him with that connection (and understand his attributes and perfect nature through the aspects connection ubiquitously seems to connect to) I view as being central to everything.

Shit like understanding, love, and freedom IMO are very in keeping with that connection and in fact are forms of connection, whereas shit like censorship and self-victimization are forms of disconnection, and as such, regardless of whether or not my belief in God is correct, that shit seems immoral because regardless of God's existence, that disconnection is going against the very essence of the universe. And also, even if I'm wrong about God's existence, one thing that I'm certain of is that my faith in love isn't misplaced, since that's the one thing that's given me meaning and happiness in an otherwise meaningless ****ed up world.


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I just laugh at stuff like this:


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Who do i speak with and where do i go when i'm offended and have concerns about safe spaces?


This reminds me of when someone from Rebel Media in Canada called their university hotline that was a trigger hotline. Think of it I guess like a suicide hotline, but 1,000 times more pathetic. Well someone called saying that they had been triggered by the trigger hotline, lol.


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It's like everyone took some tainted LSD:


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I just laugh at stuff like this:



In this video.

The woman is not racist.

Ths Storekeepers signage indicates support for Israel.

The sign un-conditionally endorses Israel.

The customer objects to the endorsement of Israeli millitary manoevres which have led to the deaths of non combatants.

It is the sign which triggers the customer.

The Grocery Store Owner says he is Jewish.

The Customer is not offended by The Grocery Store and Owner being Jewish.

The customer's concerns over the sign and its political reference are clearly defined:

Caualties to Non Combatants.

They disagree.

The Storekeeper states. We also sustain casualties to non combatants.

In response. The Customer expresses a belief its not professional to mix politics with business.

The Grocery Store Owner replies. It is Professional (YMMV) and makes reference to his democratic right to freedom of expression.

The Customer speaks about withdrawing support for the grocery store The Storekeeper makes it clear he will #Survive

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Customer filed a complaint with the business owner.
Business owner dismissed the complaint.
Customer withdrew support for the business.

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W.r.to the general themes in this discussion:

avoidance of confrontation/challenging ideas, trigger warnings, mollycoddling and safe spaces

I think it's fair to say, this is an example of two people who don't respect safe spaces and are able to communicate, disagree and emerge from a challenging situation without hysterics, crying, profanity, violence etc.

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It is the sign which triggers the customer.






Actually I would say it was the Customer that TRIGGERED the CUSTOMER.


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The professor has hope now.

These so-called liberals are not actually liberals. They are the real fascists.

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That being said, I don't think attacking and mocking PC people for their ideology is right either. I definitely believe they should be criticized, but it should be constructive rather than destructive criticism.

I believe that attacking people for differences in ideology only drives them to become more set in their ways, more defensive, and more hostile, and this hostility gets bounced back and forth, which leads people to build barriers between each other and become disconnected. I think if we expressed empathy, expressed a legitimate desire to help each other rather than attacking each other, people would be more open to what each other have to say, and thus more open to change and the truth.

I think that making ideological discussions such a hostile environment creates a pretty unhealthy attitude towards ideology in our society.


Well said. This is my attitude as well.


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LOL so get this, a history teacher has been put on leave for comparing Trump to Hitler.

I just find that amusing. I find it wrong for the teacher to be put on leave for that, and apparently some parent wrote an email whining about him. Though I guess some SJW's will get to experience what it's like to see people flee from ideas.

Keep in mind a bunch of parents have signed a petition in favor of the teacher. A lot of them talking about free speech, which is good. I especially know in my heart of hearts that they'd also speak out against any transgender person trying to make it so people HAVE to use the pronoun they choose, like we are seeing in Canada. I do know they are consistent in their views, so it's good to know how much they value free speech.


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Does the history teacher have a time machine

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so people HAVE to use the pronoun they choose, like we are seeing in Canada.
The bill itself doesn't force people to adopt pronouns. It adds gender identity to the list of things that people can't discriminate against. Like how you can't refuse someone service based on their skin colour or sexuality--now also gender identity. The contention is when it starts being considered discrimination, like say when a university prof. doesn't want to use it. It's no more illegal for everyday people to refuse to use "proper" pronouns for one another than it is for someone who says 'n*gger' or 'c*nt'.


Don't let the use of the word 'riot' in that article fool you. There wasn't one. Buzzwords for a headline.


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The bill itself doesn't force people to adopt pronouns. It adds gender identity to the list of things that people can't discriminate against. Like how you can't refuse someone service based on their skin colour or sexuality--now also gender identity. The contention is when it starts being considered discrimination, like say when a university prof. doesn't want to use it. It's no more illegal for everyday people to refuse to use "proper" pronouns for one another than it is for someone who says 'n*gger' or 'c*nt'.


Don't let the use of the word 'riot' in that article fool you. There wasn't one. Buzzwords for a headline.


Yes but as the one guy who is an opponent of it says..technically it could be used to fine someone for not using the right pronoun.

Even that shit is ridiculous and too much. It could potentially lead us into some dark territory and nobody seems to care they just want to say anyone against it is a transphobe.


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