abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I mean we're discussing strength feats though, not durability
So Orion is more durable than he is strong?
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Aug 24th, 2019 04:26 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
So Orion is more durable than he is strong?
I don't know what point your getting at. I asked for a strength feat, and you're switching it up to "well OrIoN Was Unharmed!!"
might as well show an actual strength feat that'd put him above Shazam
Aug 24th, 2019 04:40 PM
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To be fair, I would say Captain Marvel's fight with Dreadnaught is comparable, if not more impressive, to Orion's fight with Superman.
Aug 24th, 2019 05:13 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
In the meanwhile did we see any damage to Orion by the repeated punches by Superman? He was fine.
Superman at normal level has almost beat Cap to death.
When?
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Aug 24th, 2019 06:57 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
When?
He's referring to their fight in Action Comics Annual #4.
When Superman was possessed by Eclipso.
Aug 24th, 2019 07:37 PM
celeyhyga17
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Wasnt he sun amped here?
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Aug 24th, 2019 07:46 PM
The_Dog_of_War
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wasnt he sun amped here?
Orion
Yes, he was, but we don't know to what extent.
I doubt he was at OWAW levels.
However, I think Captain Marvel's fight against Dreadnaught is comparable to what Orion did.
Aug 24th, 2019 09:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The_Dog_of_War
He's referring to their fight in Action Comics Annual #4.
When Superman was possessed by Eclipso.
Yep. I knew exactly which fight he was talking about. Cap wasnt going all out. Can someone answer this, does Eclipso possession amp the user?
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Aug 24th, 2019 09:12 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Yep. I knew exactly which fight he was talking about. Cap wasnt going all out. Can someone answer this, does Eclipso possession amp the user?
It seems to give normal people superhuman stats, but I'm not sure how much, or if the amount would matter in the case of someone like Superman.
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Aug 24th, 2019 09:16 PM
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It's mind control, right?
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Delta1938
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The_Dog_of_War
Yes, he was, but we don't know to what extent.
I doubt he was at OWAW levels.
However, I think Captain Marvel's fight against Dreadnaught is comparable to what Orion did.
If you're talking when Dreadnaught was duplicating Superman's powers, I don't think he duplicated them to 100% considering how Superman treated Dreadnaught in a rematch when he resisted Psi-Phon.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Yep. I knew exactly which fight he was talking about. Cap wasnt going all out. Can someone answer this, does Eclipso possession amp the user?
Cap being an idiot and the Wisdom of Solomon failing him doesn't dispute it.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Yep. I knew exactly which fight he was talking about. Cap wasnt going all out. Can someone answer this, does Eclipso possession amp the user?
Eclipso amps by mixing his energy with their energy, so it's incompatible with Superman. Compare Superman's fights with normal humans possessed to his fight with Lar Gand. If it amped Kryptonians/Daxamites, it sure didn't show with Lar.
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Aug 24th, 2019 10:38 PM
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I just want to see Orion's combat showings that's superior. ABC logic comparison with Superman never works
Aug 24th, 2019 10:44 PM
Delta1938
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I just want to see Orion's combat showings that's superior. ABC logic comparison with Superman never works
So you're going to pull this card when outside New Gods he has almost nothing but fights against Superman. He did fine against Black Adam despite being at a flight disadvantage.
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Aug 24th, 2019 10:59 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Delta1938
So you're going to pull this card when outside New Gods he has almost nothing but fights against Superman. He did fine against Black Adam despite being at a flight disadvantage.
we're discussing strength feats delta
besides, Supes far surpassed Orion awhile ago in PC. before new 52 continuity
Aug 24th, 2019 11:04 PM
Delta1938
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
we're discussing strength feats delta
besides, Supes far surpassed Orion awhile ago in PC. before new 52 continuity
So? Orion still was more impressive in KOTW than what you showed for Cap.
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Aug 24th, 2019 11:05 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Delta1938
So? Orion still was more impressive in KOTW than what you showed for Cap.
ok show a better strength feat.
Delta, you do this everytime. show some evidence for once
Aug 24th, 2019 11:10 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's mind control, right?
Totally. I see your point. So it pretty much shows that Eclipso fought in Superman's, place making the reference moot to a certain extent that supercedes lesser puppeteer manipulations. Eclipso is nearly as invasive as Starro. Good catch.
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Aug 24th, 2019 11:27 PM
Delta1938
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
ok show a better strength feat.
Delta, you do this everytime. show some evidence for once
A better feat has already been shown. Your arguments to dismiss it doesn't change the fact. Why am I going to show evidence that's already been posted but you say doesn't count 'cuz reasons?
And what the **** does this have to do with anything?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
besides, Supes far surpassed Orion awhile ago in PC. before new 52 continuity
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Aug 25th, 2019 12:38 AM
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I already addressed abhi's scan. you can read right?
Superman surpassing Orion means ABC logic doesn't work
Aug 25th, 2019 12:42 AM
Delta1938
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I already addressed abhi's scan. you can read right?
Superman surpassing Orion means ABC logic doesn't work
No you didn't. You argued because Orion used Astro-Force at one point it wasn't pure strength then made stupid claims of Orion getting stomped. If we use your logic, it's still Orion's advantage because he used Astro-Force once, Captain Marvel is magically powered.
What the **** logic are you using? Regardless of your opinion on how they placed, that doesn't dismiss the fights they've had, especially in relation to others.
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