The word grooming was definitely used, now the excuse is she meant the republicans. She said they are gonna go third party "again". Remember: in the past Jill Stein was pushed as a Russian shill stealing votes from Hillary. I do not recall it ever being "The GOP groomed Stein to take votes away from Hillary". Yet if she meant republicans and not russians when saying they will "go third party again". Which means she is saying not only are they grooming Tulsi, but that they groomed Jill Stein lol.
Which still leaves us with an unhinged conspiracy theory with no evidence. And the word "grooming" suggests active cooperation. If a person runs for office and I donate money to them...I'm supporting them, but I'm not "grooming" them unless I have some sort of relationship with them. So I'd ask what the basis is for the claim whether she meant russians or republicans lol.
Why do I get the feeling the answer from some will be stuff like "she went on fox"?
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This brings up another point, is the attempt to go "she meant republicans!" just trying to set the record straight or is it being pushed because the gullible somehow think it's more acceptable to aim unhinged conspiracies at republicans than it is russians?
Cuz at the end of the day I still see a bitter old lady lying and pushing unhinged conspiracies, making herself look like a damn fool. And I see those trying to justify the conspiracies as almost as bad.
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It's damage control. They think it's more acceptable with their spin. Which should tell us a lot about them.
But then again these are the same people that think our own media has more of a right to manipulate us and lie to us than some russians do to post some gay bernie sanders coloring books on facebook.
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okay, so are you suggesting that the full podcast transcript is a fabrication, or are you behaving like those woodstock hippies who tried to chant the rain away?
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I'm certainly open to interpreting it the way you do. So...the claim is indeed that republicans groomed Stein in 2016 then, correct? That surely had to be what she meant when she said they'd go third party, if she meant repubs.
And btw in your interpretation: is she somehow less unhinged?
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tbh I took it at face value as well when all network news parroted the same lie. at least one of us learned our lesson and I allowed critical thinking to save me from the jaws of ignorance. godspeed surt. chant more and stop the rain.
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Oh man the very concept of self awareness just blew its brains out.
And I'm guessing I'm not gonna get any valid answer on if you feel your interpretation somehow makes her appear less unhinged...?
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I've said it on this thread and the other thread, it wasn't about the grooming it was about Hillary crying Russia again and pointing a finger at Tulsi and Stein, she absolutely did that.
I listened to the podcast so that I could blow past all the media trash, her mssg was clearly russia and assets. It's fairly ridiculous because no one can choose those sort of events behind the scenes, then to call it out is clearly one of those "dog whistles" (lulz.)
Okay but the word grooming is used by her that is even in the link Bash gave. So if she was referring to republicans grooming, it means she is now saying they groomed Jill Stein too.
IMO this wasn't merely an attempt to correct the record, I think some think it paints her in a better light if she meant republicans, but it really doesn't. It's like if someone tells their friend they think aliens from mars are spying on them via implants in their fingertips and the friend repeats it, but says saturn instead of mars. It doesn't magically become less crazy.
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Your interpretation is what I took away, as well. It should seem obvious to anyone not coming into the situation with a bias (which both PVS and Surtur have).
I mean I'm more than willing to say she meant republicans were doing the grooming, but I'm curious if any of the usual suspects here will answer me when I ask if they think it somehow paints her in a better light. One already dodged that repeatedly.
Cuz for me the bottom line is spouting off about insane conspiracy theories.
EDIT: And I'm waiting for the fact checkers the media love so much to fact check her claims about Stein being one of the reasons she lost.
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Politicians are like legal mobsters, at least in this country. They rarely need to have people killed because their power and money gives them plenty of other options.
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To answer Surt's silly question: Yes, saying Gabbard is being groomed by Republicans to possibly run as a 3rd party candidate as a means to siphon some votes away from the Democrat nominee in 2020 is far more sensible than the narrative of Clinton saying Gabbard is a secret Russian asset.
The reason I call his question silly, is because he'll deny the common sense logic I just noted and insist he's right.
Yes, that was the demonstrably proven false narrative that Hilary put forth for her loss in 2016: Stein took away her votes. But actual fact checking of that claim made it obvious that Stein didn't come anywhere close to stealing votes from Hillary enough for Trump to edge her out in key states.
However, it should be noted that a healthy number who voted for Bernie also switched parties and voted for Trump.
A lot of them.
But still not enough in key states to change the outcome of the election.
What's more believable:
Facts you can check rather easily and prove Clinton wrong.
Conjecture by Clinton based on facts you can prove wrong?
Clinton can try to push the blame of on anyone except for her terribleness and her party's terribleness. It works because many moronic Democratics eat it up. But most people don't buy it.
So basically "I win if you disagree with me". Do better.
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