Okay in terms that you may understand, Magog who is far weaker based on feats is nowhere near Blue Marvel in punching power was tossing Conner around like a lightweight vs a heavyweight screams plot armor for Superboy while he briefly stood toe to toe against Superboy Prime. This means that the writers don’t give a crap about power levels and is actually worse hat Spider Man defeating Firelord, because if we followed that train of thought m, Conner would break even with Monarch even though Magog nearly buried him.
Btw don’t ever find yourself telling me what I can or can’t do homie.
Obviously matching Prime a feat, as Prime has also lost his cool and nearly beat Connor to death in a moment.
But let’s not act like Kon being high end is something out of the ordinary or a one off. He went toe to toe with Mon El. He was one shotting the Kandor Kryptonians. Overpowered Alura In-Ze. Zero diffed his clone Match(until he stopped fighting and tried to reason with him), who himself beat Ultraman down 1v1 casually until he was contemplating killing him while he had him down and Ultraman exploited it. Used TTK to explode Black Lantern Kal-L. Was outclassing an alternate future Darkseid avatar. Was beating Kingdom Come Flash and KC Superman at essentially the same time. Etc etc.
Basically, if Superman and Supergirl isn’t around(and perhaps Jon now). Kon is probably the definitive heavy hitter almost anywhere he is.
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Is that a high for him or a low for them? Magog as mentioned raffled him, and Magog is a low class 100. This is exactly what I meant about plot armor and the cherry picking involved when it is used to often allow a far weaker character the ability to defeat characters that their entire team would struggle to compete against. Darkseid avatars aren’t a solid feat. We have no idea how powerful the avatar is, so why present avatar as if it were True Form Darkseid?
Everything that you stated is in error. Or, Magog who was rag dolling Conner could do the exact same thing, only far easier. Plot armor exists and Conner has never been seen as more than a mid meta. Or is Spider Man a high herald due to physically knocking Firelord out? Plot armor?
Magog was wrecking KC Superman - he literally one shot KC Superman, and Amazing Man who had taken on the powers of his staff: https://imgur.com/dZWLC7w
Conner would get one shot by Blue Marvel. Antimatter annihilates matter on contact. This would blow right through durability on a far higher scale than Conners.
Regular Superman was also mentioning how he wasn't hurting him. Again, saying Magog is a low class 100 is being quite disingenuous.
That's not really how comics go, though, TBF. Otherwise BMs blasts would annihilate the air molecules as he fires the blasts, which means he'll never actually hit anything lol.
What kind of power levels are being tossed around there? If Conner can’t consistently compete at those levels he isn’t on that level. He needs help against that level.
Blue Marvel actually does defeat Pagan solo. This is what I mean about consistently being on that. Thor, Wonder Man, Vision, Iron Nan, Scarlet Witch got their behinds handed to them, which later shows Pagan physically overpowering Thor to the point of smashing him into the ground.
Blue Marvel easily conte did whither a Phoenix Avatar within the White hot room. He felt its power and stated that it wasn’t anything that he couldn’t handle. I mean in case they’ve idea that he could possibly have failed to toss Pagan in jail solo. The he two pieces King Hyperion who would give Gladiator hell.
KOs Sentry momentarily, and is taken down by surprise attack once Sentry got his wits together, this nearly KOd Sentry. Was defeated by a cosmic entity that was more fit for Galactus to defeat.
It isn't that Blue Marvel can’t use antimatter in his punches, because he can like when he destroyed those alien ships, he chooses not to. There’s a difference. If this were a death battle where both are going all out, this isn’t a contest.
My point isn't that Conor is at that level though? My point is that Magog isn't a low class 100, so getting raffled by him, as you put it, when Magog was raffling KC Superman (in one hit, literally), Infinity Man, the JSA combined etc, isn't a low showing for Kon.
In other words Connie would get his head handed to him by a herald who can be tossed around by guys that are as strong as Hladiator. Connor failed to do so with Magog.
Blue Marvel I would one shot if this were a battle that decided the date of their respective universes. Let’s put this to bed, because Connor doesn’t survive one full powered non holding back punch from Blue Marvel. If we go Death Battle rules he gets smoked again.
At his highest showing what can do better than a Phoenix Avatar in their domain? A Phoenix Avatar would ignite Magog’s entire being likely turning him into a smoking ash pile. Blue Marvel easily weathers this level of attack. Takes blunt force trauma amazingly well from Gladiator level opponents, they were unable to weather his punches, and this is before hitting them with antimatter.
Conner is outclassed. Lower tier, lower power level.
Magog would get one shot by an antimatter punch to the face. Superman beat Magog from pillar to post. Blue Marvel actually hits harder than a Kryptonian due to antimatter which blows clean through durability annihilating matter upon contact. Not sure exactly what you don’t get? Conner is little league right below Magog. A Phoenix Avatar is well above Conners pay grade. Conner in the White Hot Room vs the Phoenix. He lasts about 5 seconds. Me saying that Magog is a lightweight is as weird as pretending that Conner wins here, he doesn’t, and it is t actually close.
One shot happens unless Blue Marvel is holding back and asking if Conner is alright after taking punishing blow after blow.
Blue Marvel has infinite power to draw from. What is Conner powered by? Sunlight and not to the point that he should ever be able to challenge a Kryptonian.
What next? Conner can challenge Storm Eternity’s Avatar?
Comics and battle boards aren't real life. Antimatter doesn't behave the same way - otherwise BMs fists would be exploding on contact with air - you know, matter? I am using actual comic showings of antimatter as fired by BM, where they DON'T just annihilate matter.
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No, what we "need" to hear is an actual person's response and not some chatGPT regurgitation vomit.
