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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The feats are it made and sustains creation and retains the ability to infinitely create.

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What are All in Darkseids feats that places him above Marvels equivalent of the Source?

A scan talking about his role? How hypocritical lol

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Never actually shown.

Marvel's equivalent of Tiger God in its own place of power. A minor deity of Earth lmao.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Big Bang event has been shown many a time in Marvel comics and latest continuity tells us it's an emanation of the Phoenix Force

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There's a difference between what's canon and what your bias and pride allow you to accept.

Before said incident Tiger God was elevated in the hierarchy to the point where he could defeat LT equivalent entities.

Phoenix defeated the Tiger God

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Originally posted by Galan007
Doom and Rocket witness the birth of the universe:
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Originally posted by abhilegend
It isn't. Phoenix was created by Big Bang.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Proof of the elevation of the Tiger God except the circular logic?

Wow, Phoenix defeated a minor Earth deity who was defeated in combat by Black Panther.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
This was the latest version of the big bang in marvel universe, printed in Jan 2025.



Not even an allusion of phoenix force.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats old continuity that youre disingenuously clinging on to out of pride and spite lol

2005:

https://imgur.com/gvJ24JU

2021:

https://imgur.com/dpSSRJq

https://imgur.com/hNRLYq9

2023:

https://imgur.com/ZE4wXc9

4 weeks ago:

https://imgur.com/vsv6HGz

Present current continuity scans thats retcon this or accept canon.

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Tiger God being able to defeat an entity shown casually dispatching an entire Celestial host with a thought and then later being stated to be an oppositional force of an entity stated to be the source of Marvel creativity is evidence of an elevation of status.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Heres confirmation from Phoenix 8 released last month

https://imgur.com/vsv6HGz

A scan would have to attribute the Big Bang to another entity to constitute a retcon. Not simply not mention Phoenix when its established its the energies of creation already. Disingenuous

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Originally posted by abhilegend
None of the scans confirm phoenix created big bang, just it created stars or life.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it's not. Black Panther defeated it in combat in the very same issue.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
This scan explicitly states life comes from its flames:

https://imgur.com/vsv6HGz

That the Big Bang is its energies:

https://imgur.com/gvJ24JU

That all things were made from the fire of the Phoenix:

https://imgur.com/dpSSRJq

That from fire the Phoenix made all that is:

https://imgur.com/hNRLYq9

That the White Hot Room is the starting point of Marvel creativity:

https://imgur.com/rAQRGko

Its conclusive and the discussion on this particular point is over. Unless you post a retcon then we have nothing further to discuss.




A test of Black Panthers will and resolve. Not an out and out battle of power. Dont be so disingenuous lol. BPs a street leveller

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Originally posted by abhilegend
All life created, not big bang.. And no reason to crop the scan, the full scan shows the phoenix is just a thought, a yearning of the universe.

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It's not the creator of the universe, it's merely a function of the universe.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Stephanie states in her series that the Phoenix is creation. It is the substance of the universe which means as a fragment of the Phoenix Force, theres a part of Jean in every component of reality:

https://imgur.com/d4SiX3c

So having established the wider Phoenix Force IS creation, what that scene shows is that the Phoenix's initial manifestation of a flickering spark represented its yearning to bring about life, with it being confirmed all life derives from its flames.

https://imgur.com/zndUBjA

It is explicitly highlighted as the wellspring. The source

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Posting scans from literally several different comics and treating it like one story, no wonder you're confused.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
As per Phoenix 8, as you posted yourself, Phoenix is yearning of the universe, not it's creator. You played yourself lol.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Where's it stated that it was a test of Black Panthers will and resolve?

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Phoenix is a part of the creation, it's not creation itself by your own scans.

Can you read or not? It's getting embarrassing.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Multiple different scans stating the same thing, thus establishing the characteristic is firmly rooted in continuity by writer consensus.

You have zero conclusive evidence that that is not the case. We're done

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Where was the confrontation shown on panel that allows you to assert as fact that BP beat Tiger God through outright power? We didnt see what happened. All we know is there was a confrontation following which Tiger God decided to support BP.

Its a case of applying some integrity and common sense to interpretations. BP is a street leveller.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Im gonna need you to read my posts and the comics properly.

Eternity is referring to Jean Phoenix specifically. Jean is a leading component of the Phoenix. So theres a part of her in every element of creation. Whereas creation itself as stated derives from the Phoenix's flames:

https://imgur.com/vsv6HGz

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Tiger God was elevated to the level of abstracts after getting conquered by Black Panther.

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Makes sense.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course we are done, you're an idiot who thinks he's smart.

This is from History of the Marvel universe 1, where it's clearly stated that the big bang had nothing to do with the phoenix force.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Where is it stated that it was a test of will and resolve? Panther conquered Tiger God, you don't conquer a test, you ****ing retard.