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Doctor-Alvis
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Wasn't Wing Gundam made of gundanium? That got wrecked.


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Only because it was fighting another Gundam. Its sorta like how in marvel adamantium can cut other adamantium.

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I don't know, I've seeb those suits get damaged by most blast, especially Wing Zero in Endless Waltz. Gundanium is stong, but not indestructible. And I've never seen adamantium cut adamantium, if that were the case, every Wolverine and Deathstrike or Cyber fight would've been pretty short.


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have you seen how much damage the twin buster canon can do? THAT's why wing zero was torn pretty much to pieces when it fired it far too closely to the ground. As for Wing Gundam... it only got torn up twice... once when it self-destructed, the 2nd when it was blasted by a canon that can destroy a colony (a space shuttle roughly the size of texas) in one hit.


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Iron Man wins quite handily due to versatily and ability to use the environment to his advantage.


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trowa is great at planning though


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It's just a big robot with big guns and missiles, nothing he hasn't dealt with before.


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if you dont know what you are talking about.then you shouldnt comment


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I've seen the entire gundam wing series and endless waltz. I know what im talking about. I also read Iron Man as well. Based on my knowledge of both, I say Iron Man wins.


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"a big robot with guns" OBVIOUSLY you havent seen much of the series or the movie.... i think you greatly underestimate trowa as a fighter...


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I saw an episode of gundam where the gundams were the size of buildings. couldnt one of these just step on Iron man, or just drop it's gun on him.


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I've seen the entire series of gundam wing and endless waltz. Quiet with your fanboyism. Essentially that's the whole concept with a mobile suit or a gundam. It's a "giant human controlled robot with big guns and powerful armor". I don't care how you put it, because that's what it really is.


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I've seen the entire series of gundam wing and endless waltz. Quiet with your fanboyism. Essentially that's the whole concept with a mobile suit or a gundam. It's a "giant human controlled robot with big guns and powerful armor". I don't care how you put it, because that's what it really is.


OMG and what do u think Iron Man is ??? Its just some guy in armor that increases his stregth and durability and gives him some weapons pretty much what a gundam is except that gundams have better armor bigger weapons and are stronger not to mention the huge size advantage. This is dumb your just being biased everyone else in here knows that Iron Man would lose I mean its a freaking gundam.

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Alright, Ive seen all sorts of arguments facts, and misconceptions. First off, Heavyarms would most likely LOSE to these two competitors. Why? Because they can out manuever him. The only problem... their weapons will deal little to no damage. A 1500 ton nuke eh... If the actually manage to hit heavyarms with that thing you can be sure they wont go away unscathed. Now, as far as a head on fight... Heavyarms takes the cake. His micro missles coupled with the sheer number of bullets would overwhelm the duo.

Trowa is a good pilot, but his expertise is in ranged combat, if these two get close hes done. The heavyarms gundam custom, kai and regular all lack the mobility to fight BOTH iron man and war machine at the same time.


Now, as far as the piloting skills go...

Heero should be considered the average. His skills are above average in every category, and he has no weak points. Heero takes his mission and does it, with little self doubt. If he feels like he is doing wrong, he questions himself on his own time. Considered to be the best G-Boy overall, he would lose in a fight with Trowa, Duo or Wufei. Why? Because they all have suits oriented for one thing, while his is the generic 'blast em to shit' suit.

Duo is the most capable at piloting, I.E. hes a good driver. He can handle Deathsycthe hell very well, but in a prolonged fight, he is the worst off. He relys on speed to get a 1 shot off and defeat his opponent. If forced into long drawn out fights, his scythe becomes much more innefective and he has to use unusual and drastic measures to keep himself in the game. (Deathsycthe hell, while not my favorite, is statisticly the best suit. It's mobility allows it to avoid nearly any enemy, its cloaking allows it to sneak up on opponents. The only time he has a problem is if the opponent knows he is coming. Trowa and Wufei would be his toughest enemies, both having a good chance of success in a direct fight.)

Trowa is best suited for ranged combat, precise and calculating, he can lay down walls of suppresive or destructive fire. His biggest weakness comes from an inability to handle high levels of stronger enemies, as his weaponry deals less damage to gundams and energy shield toting enemies. Melee he is a well rounded pilot, except for the fact that his suit is not made for this form of combat, and will leave him asking to bite the big one.

Quatre is a master strategist. He alone can truly unite the pilots, rather then fight himself, he usualy has a person or people to help him. His suit is designed to take the most damage, since he lacks combat skills, he has to rely on surviving while his partners elimante most of the threats.

Wufei can be considered the best combat orient G-Boy. Unlike the other pilots, Zero has no effect on him, because he can naturally decide who his enemies are. Out of combat he is the most torn pilot, because unlike heero and trowa, he doesnt take orders, and unlike Duo and Quatre, he doesn't fight for a specific cause. His suits are well balanced, and only really lack heavy firepower weaponry, making his biggest weakness himself. If he begins to doubt himself he will lose focus, and then lose his fight.

Zechs is the BEST pilot in GW, and there is no arguing about it. If you say Heero beat him in episode 49, your a moron. Why? Because he beat heero with a GROUND LEO... in a SPACE FIGHT. He beat Heero with an inferior suit, and with a superior suit. In the final battle Heero is using the Zero system and Zechs isn't using the Epyon system (Which is the Zero system) Zechs admits to being wrong and sacrifices himself. Zechs real weakness, like Wufei, is himself.


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A 1500 ton nuke eh... If the actually manage to hit heavyarms with that thing you can be sure they wont go away unscathed.


First of all, Stark & Rhodes are not stupid. When they fire those types of missiles they will be as far away as possible, as soon as H-Arms gets into range, before they fire it you can bet on that. Second, when they do fire it at max range they can get out of there at the speed of Mach 1.2 (960 mph). Third of all, the Iron Man's suits can withstand a nuclear explosion with flying colors, he even said in the recent Hulk comic.

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Now, as far as a head on fight... Heavyarms takes the cake. His micro missles coupled with the sheer number of bullets would overwhelm the duo.


First of all, the combined targeting systems of Iron Man/War Machine can take out 120 targets (in this case missiles) at once (I already said that!); so that missile threat is out of the way. Second of all, I heard one of you say that H-Arms cannot fly (?) even if he could, he could not maneuver not even half as well as those human sized Iron Man suits. Iron Man & War Machine can just fly around him and shoot him in the back or just fly in circles and hardly any bullets would reach the duo.

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120 targets.... wow... who says he cant fire MORE than 120 weapons? Sure, he could fire all of his missiles at once, which is a little more than 75, so, that leaves 45 targets left for them to take out... have you forgotten about his 4 gatling guns and his vulcans??? I'd be willing to bet if even one or two bullets from those things connected either of the duo would be done for.



on a side note...as for the zero system not effecting wufei... the episode where wufei finally joins up with the other pilots (its in the last 10 eps im pretty sure.... MAYBE last 15....) he pilots zero and the system does indeed effect him. It shows him who is enemy is (dont remember what it said, but it was either himself, those who wish to fight, or those who are trying to kill others, or something along those lines, i'll have to double check...) And, just like everyone else, he also hallucinated (however you spell it)


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have you forgotten about his 4 gatling guns and his vulcans??? I'd be willing to bet if even one or two bullets from those things connected either of the duo would be done for.


Iron Man's suit withstood a nuclear explosion without any problems at all and now you say that two hits from a vulcan or a gat gun could take them out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's a "vulcan" anyway?

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basically another gat gun.... and do remember that nukes are not the most powerful explosion we have by far.... it is the radiation that makes it so deadly.

besides, you can't kill a cockroach with a nuke (except of course if the bomb itself explodes right on it) but a single shot from a gun will do it in....


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You can't kill a cockroach with a nuke except if the bomb lands on it!!!! Seriously, THINK before you post stuff like that! So you are saying that if a nuke went off right in 20 feet of me the blast wouldn't kill me?!?!?! The energy released from the explosion of a nuke levels everything!!! If you don't think so, here's a picture of Hiroshima.

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seriously... think before you talk... YOU ARE NOT A COCKROACH!!!!!!! well, maybe you are... but thats YOUR problem. Cockroaches are of the few animals IMMUNE to radiation. You can stick one in a microwave and it wont be effected (the heat itself might kill it, but the radiation has no effect whatsoever)


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