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crazyspinz
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acualy, hes not the devil, hes close, but not quite, marvel acualy has like 6 guys who are "the devil" one being night crawlers father, dormammu included, so if mephisto, and there are some other ones to, i think dr doom knows him, ill call him tonight and ask


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so is mephisto*******


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Oh I know about the whole 'Mephisto makes no such claim to be the Biblical devil' and all, but that's a disclaimer by Marvel because they know they'd be in pretty hot water by having Satan a comic book character. Believe it or not, there are plenty of people out there who aren't as accepting of the devil as I am, lol.

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but there is a marvel character who acualy is the biblical devil, he isnt talked about much though, wonder why...


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...cause Marvel abandonned the idea, they'd rather not get too religous in Christianity.

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i know, hes night crawlers dad, and he lives in the dimension night bamfs into


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Dormammu, unlike Mephisto, is a multi-dimensional being who gains power from many sources including his worshipers of the many dimensions he conquered and others (Earth & Mordo). A noviced Dr. Strange invoked his name in order to use some of his powers, then stopped after he found out who Dormammu really was.

Even in his dimension, Mephisto's power is NOT near Dormammu's. Mephisto managed to stalemate Galactus, a feat that does not put him on Dormammu's level, who stalemated Eternity. Though some of the Hellcat mini series have been reckonned, it's story was about Mephisto and other hell god/demon (Satanish, Hela, Pluto, etc.) coming together to fight against Dormammu's arrival in their dimension & annexing it to his own Dark Dimension.

There was also a What If? story where Dr. Doom became the Sorcerer Supreme instead of Strange, in it Doom & the Ancient One ventured into Mephisto's realm where the Ancient One was killed (by a cheap attack from Mephisto). Doom was able to release his mother from Mephisto's grip and either Doom or the spirit of the Ancient One killed Mepshiot. However when the Ancient One died, Dormammu (who was watching the fight from his realm) was able to break through. Doom requested the FF to go back in time and retrieve a mystical gem which he later used to sent Dormammu and his hordes of demon back to the Dark Dimensions.

Clearly writters & evidence point to the fact that Mephisto is below Dormammu.


Eternity and Galactus are both creations of the same cosmic egg, therefore I consider them to be equal beings, despite Eternity's place as...eternity. Plus since Dormammu loses to Strange on a constant basis, I do not place him on the level of Mephisto.

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Yeah, it's best to say away from religious figures. They tread on thin ice as it is with the mythical characters like the Asgardians and Olympians, considering they used to be religious figures *and still are to some* They can't have a biblical devil win *for whatever reason* so it's best to leave it alone.

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agreed


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Eternity and Galactus are both creations of the same cosmic egg, therefore I consider them to be equal beings, despite Eternity's place as...eternity. Plus since Dormammu loses to Strange on a constant basis, I do not place him on the level of Mephisto.


Galactus AT full power maybe. Yet Galactus has been defeated by Earth heroes before, Eternity was not ever. Galactus' is important to the universes survival, but he's never at full power to compare Eternity.

Strange has also conjured Mephisto and locked him up in chains and covered his eyes JUST so that he could answer Strange and Dare Devil's questions. So I don't see you point. Black Panther also trapped him as well. Thor has given Mephisto some trouble, while Silver Surfer & Warlock have punked his ass IN & OUT of his realm.

Strange doesn't even give much of a rat's ass when it comes to Mephisto, neither did the Ancient One. As for Strange defeating Dormammu, there was always help from outside sources such as mystical talismans and other deities.

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Well he's at full power when these bastard heroes leave him alone and let him have a meal once in awhile, lol. As I said in another thread, he's been 'defeated' because Mr. Fantastic just happens to come across ultimate weapons that can destroy Galactus and the like. It's quite convenient.

Strange fought Dormammu without the aid of magic and beat him once. I don't know much about Dormammu I'll admit, but he let's just say in a dark alleyway I'd rather face him than Mephisto.

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id rather face him to, only because he has fire on his head witch would light up the ally, and i would know not to go down the dark ally with firey head guy in it,

everyone vote in my surfer vs thor thread
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hahahaha, that's good. Still, Mephisto is not exactly a guy who you can miss. He's surrounded by flames and always bellows 'who dares to summon the lord of the underworld?!' That's something that could tip you off, lol.

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Re: Tribunal vs Thanos(w/ gaunt) vs Beyonder

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Who do you think would win? Please know who each of them are for less ignorant answers.


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You ahve just commited the evilist dead in history.

DO NOT BUMP OLD TOPICS!

Especially if the last post was two three years ago!


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