just to clear a few things up.......zoanoids, the monsters that guyver fights on a regular basis...even one's of low class levels have been seen to take tank missiles from ABRAMS, freakin abrams for christ's sake.... guyver's durability>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>low class zoanoids.....
infact, it's been made pretty damn clear that conventional weaponry doesn't really do...well....jack shit to the bio enhanced monsters and guyver units...the only gun that was shown to be of any effect against zoanoids was specialy crafted by chronos...the guys that mkae the monsters.....I'm even beginning to doubt that most of IM's weapons will even work against the bioarmor....
while on the other hand even regular guyver units have done damage to zoalords...(guyot)...which is a feat in and of itself....I don't see IM lasting against a zoalord..and that's mainly because of the speed and reflex issues he suffers compaired to the guyver units..
also, I've figured out his strength level....(putting the 100x stronger thesis in conjunction with feats proven....lifting parts of buildings and such)....guyver should be in about the class 40-60 range....
one has to consider, even gregole boasted a good class 10-15 range, guyver overpowered him with ease....the same way he did the hyper-zoanoid darzerb who was boasting around a class 30-40 level.....
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Last edited by jinzin on Aug 17th, 2005 at 12:34 PM
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ummmmmmmmm I'm pretty sure guyver's mega smasher would vaporize him...
I mean it put a hole in a transormed guyot....
when hasn't it worked?
(the only time I can think of is in the anime when half a megasmasher did nothing to a fully empowered xtole who was enhanced by his buddy.....but again..that was half power vs. hyperzoanoid x2......and extole has far superior durability compared to regular zoanoids who again take tank missiles...)
even then.....are we considering the anime for this debate? I mean it's not exactly canon as it deviated from the comics a great deal....
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Yeah I know, it's still a pretty good debate considering the Guyver isn't out there like most anime characters. And I was kinda trying to give Iron Man's force field the benefit of a doubt in blocking the Mega Smasher, somewhat.
(Oh, and you wouldn't happen to know where I can find more info on Guyver episodes and comics? I've already seen all the episodes released to the states, but I'm not sure if there are more than that though.)
IM's force field might be able to stop one mega smasher attack but he would be significantly weakened afterwards like in new avengers 6, and guyver's still got so many other options for attack...
as far as I know..they stopped the episodes at 12...I haven't read or seen anything that would indicate they went further than the first 12 overseas....
as far as the comics go...let me do some research for you...I only get the big volumes off ebay as they come which take months on end....
but yeah I'm sure I could find something for you...give me a little bit of time...
something of note, another company other than viz is now translating the large volumes into english...it's taking time..but exciting stuff....
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I love how you keep bumping this every 3 or 4 months..
well tron did you ever figure out how to rip dvd's onto a computer.. if you never do I'll never be able to help you out..
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
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a nice little video if you haven't seen any of the new series
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this one I'm just putting here for my own evil reference purposes..
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
bump for tron... look at the new series music video. (i'm assuming you haven't seen this stuff befroe)...
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Guyver wins, Iron Mans armor couldnt stand up to the arm blades, they are almost exactly like the anti-metal form of vibranium, meaning they go through Stark like water, regardless of his vast strength advantage, the laser from its forehead is pretty damn powerful, Id say better than IMs repulsors, and Stark has nothing that can top the Mega-Blast, which is like a DBZ level overpowered attack
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honestly I don't even thing IM's strength is that much greater than guyvers either.
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Point taken, Guyver wins with his chest opener technique. It will tear off Iron mans armor.
Aug 17th, 2005 09:45 AM
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