That's his reflex speed without the spider sense. Go ahead, try and prove me wrong. There is nothing that indicates that those are his reflexes with the spider sense, that paragraph doesn't even include the spider sense. Remember, there are plenty of accounts of Spidey dodging bullets at very close to point blank range, Spidey dancing around the Hulk, there's even an account of Spidey going into speedball mode against Thor with Mendelson's mind and becoming a blur, there's an account of Spidey tricking armed gunmen into thinking they were fighting four people instead of one. Nightwing has never done anything from dancing around armed gunmen to dancing around the Hulk, the most he's done is dodge bullets.
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Hey, that pic came from me (acting all proud)...!! And Spider-Man still wins by the way.
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On his feet he can run up to speeds of a hundred miles an hour, he'd have to be able to run at those speeds to be able to jump 10 yds. (30 ft.) vertically into the air.
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"Spider-Man possesses an extrasensory "danger" or "spider" sensewhich warns him of potential immediate danger by tingling sensation in the back of his skull. The precise nature of this sense is unknown. It appears to be a simultaneous clairvoyant responce to a wide variety of phenomena (everything from falling safes to speeding bullets to thrown punches), which has given several hundredths of a second's warning, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>which is sufficient time for his reflexes to allow him to avoid injury."
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Spiderman does not run 100 mph. Stop it.
Show me ONE instance where someone had a gun aimed at Spiderman's chest at point blank range, fired, THEN Spiderman dodged it. You won't. Wonderwoman can do that (she can deflect it); Spiderman cannot.
Amazing how people are taking liberty in interpreting a character's abilities.
And what's this about having to run 100mph to jump 30 yards into the air? That's preposterous. The Hulk can jump INTO ORBIT and cannot run some 100mph.
So much for that example.
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I can't show you that instance but maybe someone else can, he can run up to superhuman speeds otherwise he wouldn't be able to jump as high, it's all about the leg strength here people.
I'm telling you I am not making this stuff up, Spidey did dodge a flurry of gunshots at point blank range when he was sqaurring off with a swat team.
Don't tell me to stop something you can't prove wrong. That's just ignorant.
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One more thing, sorry about spreading all this stuff out. But reflexes are all about reaction, right? Therefore, when accompanied by the spider sense, his reflex speed or reaction time is greatly increased.
And since his base level reflex speed is 15x that of a human, then the added warning and reaction would indeed increase his reflex or reaction to the impending attack, now I'd be really impressed if you could rebuke this.
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LoL -- the onus is not on ME to prove it. You are the one saying that he dodged gunshots at point blank range. Provide us with an issue number? How about a picture? How about even who he was fighting?
LoL, show me one bio ANYWHERE that states that Hulk can run up to the speed of sound. Show me one PICTURE anywhere of Hulk running up to 700 mph. You will not, because you CANNOT.
Reaction time? Odd, in his bio it says that his SPIDER SENSE provides him several hundredth's of a second warning, which ALLOWS him to dodge out of the way via his 15x normal human's reflexes.
You are interpreting his abilities on your own, and incorrectly at that.
And again, show me any bio that says the radioactive spider bite gave him increased RUN SPEED?
Please? I'll give you a week. A month if you need it.
People dont give Nightwing enough credit. It could be Hulk and Dooms Day Vs Spiderman and alot of people say Spiderman wins because of His Spider Sense so they cant hit him. At least some people here give a good reason why Spidey might win but other dont. Nightwing needs to get more credit.
Anyone realize that Spiderman can jump a hell of alot higher than Nightwing? He could do alot more moves than him while in the air. I say Spiderman wins.
Srank can back me up on Spidey dodging bullets at near point blank range.
And the Hulk thing isn't an issue here, I told you the sources of the informations for Spidey's case and the Hulk's, and you STILL haven't proved me wrong in the matter. You just laughed, no arguments to the contrary there. If you were so passionate on belittering me.....without proving how BP could win (and you haven't still), why not post more proof providing examples on how he couldn't? You will not, because you CANNOT.
And the paragraph on the spider sense never said anything about allowing him to dodge an attack at 15X reflex speed, the part about him having reflexes 15X faster than the average human came earlier, before the spider sense was even mentioned. Looks like you've been caught making stuff up there, pal.
And again, why argue BP's case with a "BP's richer and more resourceful than Batman" when I've provided the "Spidey could simply speedblitz him at the starting bell, a maneuver BP could not counter." Hmm. I guess Never never backs his arguments much when staring logic in the eye.
Well, now I have a compliment for the guys down at the Spidey versus Cap. America, DD, and Wolverine backing the trio. At least they post stuff for me to argue.
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No, there's alot of people who know enough about Spidey to know the difference between him avoiding Hulk and/or Doomsday and actually fighting the brutes.
Nightwing is only given credit for what he can do to Spidey in an actual fight. And seeing that Spidey could unload a speedblitz at the start of the fight, immobilize him with a wide spray of webbing, or simply KO him after springing around thrown projectiles and closing in at breakneck speed with a jab to the skull, there's not much he can do.
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That's when compared to OTHER acrobats that aren't Spidey.
A couple of flips here and there, and he'd steal the show from Nightwing that and any other day. And what with having a built-in warning system that would keep him adept to surprise attacks from Nightwing (assuming Spidey held back) from any angle despite him being unfamilar with the environment, would kepe him on his game alot faster than Nightwing would prefer, or expect.
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Give me some good reasons why Nightwing stands a snowball's chance in hell against spider-man, who has defeated Mysterio, Doctor Octopus, Venom, Morbius, escaped from the X-men (Including Nightcrawler), and has lived after encountering both the Hulk and Juggernaut.
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