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Fishy
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You all have an equal amount of Taxes in Belgium? Everybody pays lets say 50% or something or does it differ from income?


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it differs from income, the more you make the more taxes you pay, with a maximum and a minimum but all with a 10 percent reach (except for the special cases like ppl who live of welfare and stuff)


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Ahh okay...


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Someone asked if anyone could define an extremist..
What happened to that question? I’m sure some people would call ME an extremist, but I – of course- would hardly call my views that.
So – what IS extremism?
And is one worse than the other?


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Sure, an example of a left wing extremist is as follows -


Thinks everything Bush does is horrific and destined to damn America/the world in armageddon (Won't have any comment defending their beliefs of Bush decisions causing world wide destruction in 10 years, when we're all still here) also makes baseless comparisons of Bush/Hitler.

Thinks everyone should have equal rights and we should keep an open mind about everything, such as NAMBLA and Bestiality.

Thinks Bill Mahr is the greatest comic/political commentator in the world, despite the fact that half of what he says is bullshit.

Think "Truth.com" is a valid and credible website.

Thinks big corperations are evil, no matter what. And they're to blame for everything wrong in this world, all the while wearing Levi's faded jeans and numerous other clothing articles purchased at "The Gap"

Thinks every religion is horrible in every way, and doesn't recognize the positives of numerous religions.

"Save the rainforest" mantra is their favorite phrase in the world.

Protests everything they don't like, then ***** when a car runs them over while they're loitering in the street with their idiot signs.

Listens to Air America Radio, a blatantly liberal station, that is also blatantly one sided, but bitches about Rush Limbaugh being one sided.

May or may not look like Micheal Moore.


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the philosophy behind a democratic government was basically that. You don't select a leader you like, you select a leader you think can best rule a country and you accept his decisions. Only when somebody better comes along should you vote that person out of office.


But that's Americanized democracy, which isn't true democracy at all. A true democracy is a society where people literally govern themselves—people are selected to serve in the senate the way they're selected to perform jury duty.


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I am not sure what you are saying?jm confused

Well, that's no surprise.

Some of the ones that come to my mind are the ones condoning "art" that simply shouldn't be (check my Double. You. Tee. Eff. (Sex! Education!) thread).

Also, the ones who want to remove any public..."stuff" having to do with Christianity and replace it with Islamic "stuff". They say "separation of church and state", but they don't exactly abide by it.

I hate those ultra-tolerant bastards. They get me really, really steamed. So I won't start up against them.

Oh, one more before I am accused of being too one-sided: people who wanted a construction of a massive, gay, lesbian, and bisexual only school. It cost a freakin' ton and had a grand total of a HUNDRED students. The other schools in the area really sucked in comparison to it.


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Hmm I guess we have a whole different idea of extremists in germany first of all extremists have to be violent.....now right wing extremists are fasicst (Nazis) and left wing are communist or socialists.

Darth Revan what you are implying is a socialist democracy there are different forms of democracy even though what fishy said sounds very much like a democracized version of Hobbes Leviathan What the f**k?


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But that's Americanized democracy, which isn't true democracy at all. A true democracy is a society where people literally govern themselves—people are selected to serve in the senate the way they're selected to perform jury duty.


No thats the ancient Greek definition of Democracy, they should know they invented it.

Democracy wasn't made to make people govern themselves, it was made to keep the leaders in check. You selected the best leader and that leader would have to do everything he could to help improve the country isntead of himself. Becuase if he improved himself he would get kicked out and somebody better who would do anything for the coutry would be voted into office. thats the idea, you don't vote for the most popular, or for the nicest, or for the proudest. You vote for the smartest.

that concept has been completly destroyed in modern day democacy's however and it very rarely happens anymore.


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But that's Americanized democracy, which isn't true democracy at all. A true democracy is a society where people literally govern themselves—people are selected to serve in the senate the way they're selected to perform jury duty.


well I wouldn't call it Americanized democracy DR cause almost every democratic country in the world uses indirect democracy this way.

The way you suggest would allow for seriously underqualified people with horrific ideas to come to power.


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Still can happen, though...


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no it can't


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If it is ever used then the democracy the Greeks invented is gone.


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The political compass articulated how it is muddled thinking to use such terms as "right" and "left" wing.

I doubt anyone would call themself an extremist.


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come on girls...theyre there to help you...dont destroy them. if you dont want to wear them, then dont buy them. but for gods sake, spare the life of the $40 victorias secret bra. its too expensive to just waste like that. burn paper... its free


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Originally posted by The Omega
Someone asked if anyone could define an extremist..
What happened to that question? I’m sure some people would call ME an extremist, but I – of course- would hardly call my views that.
So – what IS extremism?
And is one worse than the other?


Extrme? you have no idea.


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