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1. Accepting a possibility and saying that I believe something are entirely different things. I base this belief on the fact that physical trauma can completely change the personality of a person--why, then, couldn't a chemical difference change a more minor aspect of a personality?


for an individual, perhaps. for about 50% of the population though? comon dude, seriously, you're stretching the possability for an individual to one of the majority. yes, perhaps if i took a blow to the head i may end up voting for bush....who the hell know? but as i said before, this article implies a biological difference between two halves of a nation. that is junk science.

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2. Apparently you are not the spitting image of your father mentally if your views are completely different. And similar brain chemistry does not correlate well with physical appearance.


apparently i AM.
apart from our political views, everyone we mutually know routinely declare that we are like clones, the way we conduct ourselves, things that we enjoy, things that piss us off, even with the same warped sense of humor, just about everything but politics.and before you even try to grasp for it: i dont choose the left out of a rebelious nature, so please dont go there either. there is no motive behind our political standing beside what we truly believe.

why do i think we differ? conditioning. ultimately, the way we view the world is the way we learn to view it through our own experiences and influences from childhood on to every day of our lives up till now.

but who cares what myself, my father and everyone we know observes. you are clearly more knowledgabe of my own family traits than i am.



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3. Dreams mean nothing.


finally we agree....i think
so then you declare this article to be heavily bias propaganda garbage based on junk science? its not a huge leap in logic...in fact it is but a short step.
ask yourself: why did fox choose to air that?

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In fact, you probably have had some of the oddest, least-sensical dreams ever, but you cannot remember them.


...and you are also more knowledgable about what i dream than i am. wow, you're an intuitive genius it seems...

anyway, the nature of my dreams depends on alot of things. the kind of day i had plays a big role. if its just a "business as usual" day, i usually just have "business as usual" dreams. on my more odd and occasional f***ed up days, my dreams become more erratic and unpredictable. i cant remember the last time i had a genuine nightmare and at worst i'll have dreams which annoy me.
however i do get some far out dreams when i've been drinking.

as far as me not remembering them, sometimes i'm prone to waking in the middle of the night, thus cutting those deep sleep dreams off short and can remember them, and still i dont recall anything that far out.

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Youu know, it is a good question to ask how much bullshit we are willing to swallow. I think I'm a bit too full for this one, though. Thanks anyway.


how incredibly mature roll eyes (sarcastic)

i dont give a rats ass whether or not you belive the truth about me, just so thats clear. however your immaturity in this post was far outshined by your awe-inspiring arrogance to imply you know more about me with regards to my mind and my family. way to raise the bar!!! laughing out loud

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Okay. Neurochemistry definitely affects behaviour e.g. Huntington's disease. Also environmental factors can affect neurochemistry - e.g. reactive depression. The FOX thing however is ludicrous. Political views are not genetic. I've never read anything about neurochemistry affecting political views or vice versa... then again I don't often read The Journal of Right-Wing Neocon Pseudoscience and Propaganda - so maybe I'll just have to look into it...


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for an individual, perhaps. for about 50% of the population though? comon dude, seriously, you're stretching the possability for an individual to one of the majority. yes, perhaps if i took a blow to the head i may end up voting for bush....who the hell know? but as i said before, this article implies a biological difference between two halves of a nation. that is junk science.

You're right. It is stretching it. Which is why I said I didn't buy it. I believe, however, that the 'altered brain chemistry' was more aimed at a broader scope of things than conservative vs. liberal. Authority, morality, ethics, that kind of stuff.

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apparently i AM.
apart from our political views, everyone we mutually know routinely declare that we are like clones, the way we conduct ourselves, things that we enjoy, things that piss us off, even with the same warped sense of humor, just about everything but politics.and before you even try to grasp for it: i dont choose the left out of a rebelious nature, so please dont go there either. there is no motive behind our political standing beside what we truly believe.

why do i think we differ? conditioning. ultimately, the way we view the world is the way we learn to view it through our own experiences and influences from childhood on to every day of our lives up till now.

but who cares what myself, my father and everyone we know observes. you are clearly more knowledgabe of my own family traits than i am.

Fine. I'll give you this point. Of course, regarding your views on this, it would just be how you were raised that would make you similar to your father.

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finally we agree....i think
so then you declare this article to be heavily bias propaganda garbage based on junk science? its not a huge leap in logic...in fact it is but a short step.
ask yourself: why did fox choose to air that?



...and you are also more knowledgable about what i dream than i am. wow, you're an intuitive genius it seems...

anyway, the nature of my dreams depends on alot of things. the kind of day i had plays a big role. if its just a "business as usual" day, i usually just have "business as usual" dreams. on my more odd and occasional f***ed up days, my dreams become more erratic and unpredictable. i cant remember the last time i had a genuine nightmare and at worst i'll have dreams which annoy me.
however i do get some far out dreams when i've been drinking.

as far as me not remembering them, sometimes i'm prone to waking in the middle of the night, thus cutting those deep sleep dreams off short and can remember them, and still i dont recall anything that far out.

Why did FOX choose to air that? It doesn't matter their motives; all that matters is what we'll believe. They could give 100 legitimate excuses and you'd still say "RIGHT-WING PROPAGANDA!".

And, yes, I am more knowledgeable on the subject of dreams than you are. Everyone dreams. Most people just don't remember them. In fact, everyone dreams several times a night. Unless you wake during REM sleep, however, you aren't likely to remember them.

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how incredibly mature roll eyes (sarcastic)

i dont give a rats ass whether or not you belive the truth about me, just so thats clear. however your immaturity in this post was far outshined by your awe-inspiring arrogance to imply you know more about me with regards to my mind and my family. way to raise the bar!!! laughing out loud

Once again, that "maturity" bit. That's a double-edged sword, PVS. Be careful upon whom you raise it as a weapon.


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thank you for an all around useless response. imagine the discussion we would have if you didnt ignore what i say? dare to dream.

and thanks for "giving" me that point, and immediately taking it back. you are so just and kind. roll eyes (sarcastic) what a waste

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Unless you wake during REM sleep, however, you aren't likely to remember them.


a point which i stated but you ignored. to be more descriptive, i have ferrets which sometimes get loud in their cage when they refuse to sleep, so i have been yanked out of plenty a deep sleep.

but just keep saying "i know more than you" in every post and perhaps through repetition it will become the truth.

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thank you for an all around useless response. imagine the discussion we would have if you didnt ignore what i say? dare to dream.

and thanks for "giving" me that point, and immediately taking it back. you are so just and kind. roll eyes (sarcastic) what a waste

If my response was 'all around useless', what does that say about that to which I responded?

How's that maturity bit going, PVS? I hope you didn't just cut your hand.


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ok, so now that you clearly have nothing to grasp to, its posts of "i know more than you...but i wont say how...so just trust me!!!!" and various one-line zingers.

ok then, whatever holds your ego together. or you could just admit you've been blowing hot air and being rather toolish....naaaaaaaa.....carry on

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ok, so now that you clearly have nothing to grasp to, its posts of "i know more than you...but i wont say how...so just trust me!!!!" and various one-line zingers.

ok then, whatever holds your ego together. or you could just admit you've been blowing hot air and being rather toolish....naaaaaaaa.....carry on

I do know more than you. On some subjects.

And my "various one-line zingers"? Would you have it that I make it two as to imitate your own posting? Or would you prefer to leave the situation as the pot calling the kettle black?

Again, how's that maturity working out for you?


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Again, how's that maturity working out for you?


well, you cant resist the urge to respond can you?
seems like your trying to convince yourself of your superior intellect,
rather than me, since im just some immature idiot.

pot and kettle indeed laughing out loud

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well, you cant resist the urge to respond can you?
seems like your trying to convince yourself of your superior intellect,
rather than me, since im just some immature idiot.

pot and kettle indeed laughing out loud

Yes, PVS, I am trying to prove my superior intellect and that you are an immature dolt. Because that is EXACTLY what I've been saying all along. The entire time I've been thinking, "Man, that PVS? What an idiot. He's a liberal so, like, he is retarded. His brain chemistry is so altered that he is considered 'profoundly retarded'. Maybe he has Down Syndrome or something."

The only thing I have said about you being immature was that I found it...interesting how you frequently accuse me of immaturity when your posts show that you are just as--if not more--guilty of this 'crime'.

By the way, if I did not respond, you would gloat over your "victory" about how I had nothing more to go on so I stopped posting against you.


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The only thing I have said about you being immature was that I found it...interesting how you frequently accuse me of immaturity when your posts show that you are just as--if not more--guilty of this 'crime'.


and yet you still perpetuate this seemingly mutually immature exchange (however , of coarse i am EVER so much more immature than you, if you are the least bit immature at all, which you are probably not.)

ok, keep going.......... roll eyes (sarcastic)

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ok, keep going.......... roll eyes (sarcastic)

Keep giving me fodder and I will.


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Keep giving me fodder and I will.


but isnt that in itself immature?
if you are so mature and superior, would you not prove far
more by simply being the better man and walking away?
have you not already clearly 'won' and now stand triumphant over
my owned carcass? so why do you go on?

because you need to convince yourself that you are 'right' and mature laughing out loud

good luck with that stick out tongue

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but isnt that in itself immature?
if you are so mature and superior, would you not prove far
more by simply being the better man and walking away?
have you not already clearly 'won' and now stand triumphant over
my owned carcass? so why do you go on?

because you need to convince yourself that you are 'right' and mature laughing out loud

good luck with that stick out tongue

No, because if I were to "be the better man", as you described, you would--as usual--claim to have triumphed in the war of the words and how the only reason I stopped responding was because I couldn't compete. It also sounds incredibly arrogant.

If we're being honest here, trading jabs at each other--especially outside of PMs--is quite immature and wastes time, energy, and the purpose of KMC.


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why would it matter what i claim? i am but the fool,
and you are the superior one. surely since you are so
right then everyone can clearly see that and my call of "victory"
will be seen as the deranged babbling of a delluded fool who simply cant admit defeat..right?

but you DO persist and try so hard to convince...but who are you trying to convince? me? im a fool, what does it matter what i think. so who, oh who? eek!

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why would it matter what i claim? i am but the fool,
and you are the superior one. surely since you are so
right then everyone can clearly see that and my call of "victory"
will be seen as the deranged babbling of a delluded fool who simply cant admit defeat..right?

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Yes, PVS, I am trying to prove my superior intellect and that you are an immature dolt. Because that is EXACTLY what I've been saying all along. The entire time I've been thinking, "Man, that PVS? What an idiot. He's a liberal so, like, he is retarded. His brain chemistry is so altered that he is considered 'profoundly retarded'. Maybe he has Down Syndrome or something."

The only thing I have said about you being immature was that I found it...interesting how you frequently accuse me of immaturity when your posts show that you are just as--if not more--guilty of this 'crime'.

By the way, if I did not respond, you would gloat over your "victory" about how I had nothing more to go on so I stopped posting against you.


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oh and btw....please give me a single quote from any thread where i declare that i have "won"..... i anxiously wait.....

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oh and btw....please give me a single quote from any thread where i declare that i have "won"..... i anxiously wait.....

You haven't yet, but you've done it enough in other threads that I can say that you would.


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You haven't yet, but you've done it enough in other threads that I can say that you would.


ok, did you notice the words "any thread"? guess what that means! eek!

now hop to it. go find it, HURRY!!! or you can always just stfu. whatever your preference smile

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still waiting...

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