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Mr Master
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Originally posted by id369
Ah I see, so no backing for Universal Destruction claim other then a recreating the big bang (apparently implosion), and effecting space/time fabric.

Whatever you say dude.

Tearing Space/Time on a Big Bang implosion scale is not universal.

Right, and Solar never affected a Universe either. Sure.


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Whatever you say dude.

Tearing Space/Time on a Big Bang implosion scale is not universal.

Right, and Solar never affected a Universe either. Sure.

Well no reason to bring the Solar debate here, but I can continue it somewhere else.

You cant really compare a universe that has expanded billions of years, to its former state prior to the big bang. And you cant say that a big bang like explosion would not effect the space/time, when we see a sun/star entering its final state effect space/time fabric in its explosion.


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Originally posted by id369

Well no reason to bring the Solar debate here,
but I can continue it somewhere else.

I just think it's interesting you're pulling the same tactics here.

Coincidentally, it was Solar vs Phoenix.
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Originally posted by id369

You cant really compare a universe that has expanded billions of years,
to its former state prior to the big bang.

What does this have to do with anything?
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Originally posted by id369

And you cant say that a big bang like explosion would not effect the space/time

Huh?
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when we see a sun/star entering its final state effect space/time fabric in its explosion.

You're the first person I've seen,
claiming that a Sun/Star dying can cause a Big Bang-type explosion.


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Anywho .. this is silly, Psi-Lord exploded that Universe, simple and plain.

Tearing asunder Space/Time itself on a Big Bang scale is,

blowing up a Universe.

No question about it.

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Not to mention,
that Psi-Lord attacked Vangaard,
a beast who's purpose is to erase entire UniverseS across the Marvel Omniverse:

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Not to mention,
Huntara with her Psionic Scythe can peer into other TImelines,
she confirmed Vangaard's purpose
and saw 4 UniverseS he had just erased prior to entering their Timeline:

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Not to mention,
Huntara also confirms that the Anti-matter implosion is of a staggering magnitude,
and only the gravest of circumstances,
could cause Psi-Lord to initiate such destruction:

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That other Universe anyone?

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Not to mention,
that Vangaard has already erase 1,000,000 entire Universes (Timelines)

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Makes perfect sense why he attacked Vangaard by imploding the Universe around him.
(although even that, didn't work)

Vangaard was going to erase their own Timeline,
like Huntara said:

"only the gravest of circumstances,
could cause Psi-Lord to initiate such destruction
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Originally posted by Mr Master
I just think it's interesting you're pulling the same tactics here.

Coincidentally, it was Solar vs Phoenix.


You must be high . Because I have never involved myself in a Solar vs. Phoenix debate.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
What does this have to do with anything?

With your claim that a big bang implosion, would effectively destroy the universe.
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You're the first person I' seen,
claiming that a Sun/Star dying can cause a Big Bang-type explosion.

Correction I stated, that a dying star/sun effects the space/time fabric.

And for all your image posts, with briefing. It still failed to mention the destruction of the universe.


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Originally posted by id369

You must be high .
Because I have never involved myself in a Solar vs. Phoenix debate.

And you must be high to accuse Galan of exaggerating Solar's feat,
everyone was letting you know.
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Originally posted by id369

With your claim that a big bang implosion,
would effectively destroy the universe.

So you are high if you think otherwise.
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Originally posted by id369

Correction I stated, that a dying star/sun effects the space/time fabric.

None of the Psi-Lord scans (exploding Space/Time) mention anything about "fabric" lala.

Simply, Space/Time itself:
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Psi-Lord explodes an entire Universe in Vangaard's face:

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"Brace yourselves for the Big Bang"

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"Space/Time itself has been torn asunder"

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Even Psi-Lord wouldn't have survived,
he had to escape into a Sub-pocket of Space withIN his armor:

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"An inspired stratagem Psi-Lord,
taking refuge from the implosion withIN your personal Sub-Space Pocket
"

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"A Big Bang implosion of Space/Time itself"



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Originally posted by id369

And for all your image posts, with briefing.
It still failed to mention the destruction of the universe.

As you wish.

Have fun. smile


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Originally posted by Mr Master
And you must be high to accuse Galan of exaggerating Solar's feat,
everyone was letting you know.

So you are high if you think otherwise.

Child, if you want to have a debate over Solar and my disagreements with Galan the topic is already made.
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So you are high if you think otherwise.

Maybe, but then again I don’t believe the big bang will have same effect to the universe Now that it has billions years progression, then to its former state which was no bigger then a dime (or atom pick your theory).

Let alone the fact that the universe in its prior state, was in a preferable conditions for the big bang to expand unlike Now.

Some one needs to take a science class or read an actual book. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Originally posted by id369

Child,
if you want to have a debate over Solar
and my disagreements with Galan the topic is already made.

I think Galan and company can handle you on that one.

I'll stick to proving you wrong here instead.
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Originally posted by id369

Maybe,
but then again I don’t believe the big bang will have same effect to the universe Now that it has billions years progression,
then to its former state which was no bigger then a dime
(or atom pick your theory).

Let alone the fact that the universe in its prior state,
was in a preferable conditions for the big bang to expand unlike Now.

Dude, what on earth are you talking about?

Psi-Lord didn't re-create the original Big Bang that spawned Marvel.
Psi-Lord simply blew up that entire Alternate Universe Big Bang style,
nothing more.

These explanations trying to spin the feat into something else are eerily familiar.

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Originally posted by id369

Some one needs to take a science class or read an actual book.

You stick to "science class" and non-Marvel "books",
I'll stick to Marvel Comic Books concerning Marvel facts.

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So,
did Psi-Lord (in a MARVEL COMIC BOOK) obliterate that Universe around Vangaard?

We know he did, the above scans prove this without the need to spell it out:

"A Big Bang implosion of Space/Time itself"

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But, for the meticulous types,
here it is spelled out in plain english.

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A few issues later,
Diablo is trying to mind control Psi-lord and She Hulk with stipulations,
he recalls Psi-lord's power during the arc vs Vangaard,
where Diablo was in disguise:

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"The conquest of Franklin Richards has been achieved,
limitless UNIVERSE SHATTERING Psionic powers lay now at the whim,
of Diablo
"


... Have a nice day.


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Dark Phoenix for the win.

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Ah I see, excuse me for asking if there are any clarifications or proceeding explanations to confirm the “DESTRUCTION” of a “UNIVERSE”. I cant help it, if the scans you posted are not as clear, as you want them to be or if they even correlate to your explanations. It’s the failure of not seeing specific content over the given scans, is what leads members to back reference actual information, or seek out an explanation. Otherwise you are left with an Assumptions Claim. However what do I get for politely asking, for some clarity over the given feat? I get tagged and accused of sneaky tactics, while you ease drop and forward claims outside of this topic. But its cool, the internet is serious biznas for some.

And yet I still need someone to farther clarify this feat.

When Vangard and Psi lord fought, and Psi Lord happened to unleash a Big Bang attack. Where did the match take place? Was it in the universe, realm, dimension?

I see some funky colored background. And for some reason, I don’t think Psi lord would destroy the Universe he is trying to defend or else why would Vangard continue to go after the Fantastic Force, if the task is completed. Plus you constantly mention that the destruction of the 616 universe would lead to multi-versal destruction, correct me If I am wrong but didn’t the Fantastic Force series take place in the 616 continuality?


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Originally posted by id369
Ah I see, excuse me for asking if there are any clarifications or proceeding explanations to confirm the “DESTRUCTION” of a “UNIVERSE”. I cant help it, if the scans you posted are not as clear, as you want them to be or if they even correlate to your explanations. It’s the failure of not seeing specific content over the given scans, is what leads members to back reference actual information, or seek out an explanation. Otherwise you are left with an Assumptions Claim. However what do I get for politely asking, for some clarity over the given feat? I get tagged and accused of sneaky tactics, while you ease drop and forward claims outside of this topic. But its cool, the internet is serious biznas for some.

And yet I still need someone to farther clarify this feat.

When Vangard and Psi lord fought, and Psi Lord happened to unleash a Big Bang attack. Where did the match take place? Was it in the universe, realm, dimension?

I see some funky colored background. And for some reason, I don’t think Psi lord would destroy the Universe he is trying to defend or else why would Vangard continue to go after the Fantastic Force, if the task is completed. Plus you constantly mention that the destruction of the 616 universe would lead to multi-versal destruction, correct me If I am wrong but didn’t the Fantastic Force series take place in the 616 continuality?


Psi Lord, charged up a big chunk of rock with anti matter energy, threw it at Vangaard and said brace yourselves for the Big Bang.

A big explosion ensued and Psi Lord was knocked out by the effort.

Mr Master has decided to interpret this literally as it is convenient for him. erm

It was no literal Big Bang, that was just Psi Lord hyping up his attack. The attack was impressive and contained enough power to shake up space/time in the area but it was no creation event.

That universe still existed and Vangaard brushed himself off. smile


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