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Originally posted by capt it up
taskmaster has stated that he can only do things with in his abiltiy and that some of the things spiderman does is not with in his abilites.

I see no reason taskmaster should take a majority over Logan. ive seen his respect thread and I don't recall seeing him catching a bullet. what taskmaster gunna do to logan when he has not prep time?


Knock him out with repeated, perfectly aimed Shield throws, web him with Spider-man's webbing, use duplicates of Wolverine's own claws against him, plus all the skill he has. He doesn't NEED prep time. He's got aces all up his sleeves.


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I'll certainly agree that Taskmaster isn't taking ten outta ten from Logan. To say that he simply won't manage at all, though...I'm not so sure. Captain America's shield, Spiderman's webbing, Bullseye's aim, Wolverine's claws, bullet-catching reflexes, the martial ability of some of Marvel's BEST, plus everything he learns WHILE fighting logan....he has a shot here.

spidermans webign won't help him. capt shield would. he has a 2 minut video of logan if that. wait im wrong it was 30 second video of logan.

he does not have lgoans claws. He will have a hard time learning logans style and even if he managed it once logan went beseker he be screwed. He neevr be able to mimic it. Taskmaster will give a good fight, but he just does not have the ability to take logan out fast enough to take the majority

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While i do believe TM can win this fight, i thik wolverine isint getting enough credit here. His regen is leauges better than his adamentium version, and i believe he is a little quicker w/bone claws. But still, i cant difinitively say who would take a majority here although im slanted in favor of wolverine

TM can memorize peoples moves but i dont think he neccesairily studies them, but iknow he has been able to replicate most everyones fighting styles. Like a camera kinda, i guess

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Knock him out with repeated, perfectly aimed Shield throws, web him with Spider-man's webbing, use duplicates of Wolverine's own claws against him, plus all the skill he has. He doesn't NEED prep time. He's got aces all up his sleeves.

when has taskmaster ever used spiderman webs? how the hell do you hit a person who see bullets in slow motion with a shield? it just not gunna happen. he no better at with a shield then capt is

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Originally posted by capt it up
spidermans webign won't help him. capt shield would. he has a 2 minut video of logan if that. wait im wrong it was 30 second video of logan.

he does not have lgoans claws. He will have a hard time learning logans style and even if he managed it once logan went beseker he be screwed. He neevr be able to mimic it. Taskmaster will give a good fight, but he just does not have the ability to take logan out fast enough to take the majority


He DOES have logan's claws - he has shown to use a sound-wave replicant of them just like the shield or the webbing he uses.

Not to mention the fact that Spider-man's webbing has put logan out of commission a few times, so I don't see why Taskmaster couldn't use it in the same way, considering he has even better aim.

Cap's shield with Cap's (and bullseye's) precision could certainly help secure taskmaster's win - unless you're arguing that a hulk-stunning ICBM-destroying throw wouldn't even phase logan.

Beyond that? Gimme some evidence that a berserking Logan would be unreadable by taskmaster. His abilities don't work the same way the telepath's do - he SEES movement, and copies it - memorizes it. He doesn't read the mind of the person doing it.

Past that? So what if he only had thirty seconds of video of Logan fighting? Deadpool is on par with Wolverine in the skill department, and Taskmaster only needed to watch Wade for a few panels to see enough to take him out the first time 'round.

Taskmater may not have a healing factor - but the combined skills and weapons of Daredevil, Bullseye, Captain America, Deadpool, Spiderman, the Silver Samurai, and even a bit of Logan himself could certainly valet that fact.


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He DOES have logan's claws - he has shown to use a sound-wave replicant of them just like the shield or the webbing he uses.

Not to mention the fact that Spider-man's webbing has put logan out of commission a few times, so I don't see why Taskmaster couldn't use it in the same way, considering he has even better aim.

Cap's shield with Cap's (and bullseye's) precision could certainly help secure taskmaster's win - unless you're arguing that a hulk-stunning ICBM-destroying throw wouldn't even phase logan.

Beyond that? Gimme some evidence that a berserking Logan would be unreadable by taskmaster. His abilities don't work the same way the telepath's do - he SEES movement, and copies it - memorizes it. He doesn't read the mind of the person doing it.

Past that? So what if he only had thirty seconds of video of Logan fighting? Deadpool is on par with Wolverine in the skill department, and Taskmaster only needed to watch Wade for a few panels to see enough to take him out the first time 'round.

Taskmater may not have a healing factor - but the combined skills and weapons of Daredevil, Bullseye, Captain America, Deadpool, Spiderman, the Silver Samurai, and even a bit of Logan himself could certainly valet that fact.



I agree with this post as well. The way i see it, deadpool has beaten TM & Logan before, and i would be inclined to put DP slightly above logan. With that in mind, Logans fighitng style here might be a disadvantage, and he doesnt use his healing factor as efficiently as DP does. But regardless he still has an incredible heaing factor in this form. TM has alot to pull from with his thing on hsi wrist that creates small objects or whatever, you know what im talking about

Even though TM doesnt have a healing factor, his skills are so much more versatile than logans and are extremely benificial to him. Whereas logan doesnt have a much to draw from, still his healing factor is incredible. Logan is definately capable of hanging with TM in h2h and if TM were to slip up, hes more than likely done for, which is why i can see this going either way. Tm's best bet would to try to keep this fight at a range rather than try to go in close with logan, because even IF TM had a greater fighting ability (which is debateable), he is still 'only human', and logan is not.

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Also, Im getting off for the night, but I wanted to point out a few other things:

You asked earlier about Taskmaster's speedblitzing:

Taskmaster has speedblitzed someone fast enough to catch a bullet. Nifty.

He has also cut down five guys so fast that they couldn't even get a bead on him.

He has also switched off his image-inducer and shot six men before any one of them could turn around.

About his speed and agility with reference to Daredevil and Spidey: it is true that Taskmaster says that he can't duplicate EVERYTHING, but he also refers to copying Daredevil's and Spiderman's speed and agility to dodge while fighting Spider-man.

He's taken out Cat (Shang Chi's main baddie) in three panels. He's owned up on Zaran the weapons master. He's taken it to Spiderman repeatedly, he has beaten deadpool. He's beaten Captain America.

Give the man some respect! Christ! I'm not even sure how many wins I think I'd give him out of ten, but you are acting like it would be impossible for him to take ANY - ridiculous.

I'm not entirely sure, honestly, but I could see Taskmaster taking anywhere from four to six wins out of the ten. He's just damned amazing.


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I'm not entirely sure, honestly, but I could see Taskmaster taking anywhere from four to six wins out of the ten. He's just damned amazing.


yep, whoever this match went to would only be a slight majority

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He DOES have logan's claws - he has shown to use a sound-wave replicant of them just like the shield or the webbing he uses.

When did he do this?

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Not to mention the fact that Spider-man's webbing has put logan out of commission a few times,

When? A few times? Were the hell are you getting your info from? His webbing worked once on a logan who was talking to spiderman not on a logan who was ready to fight. Taskmaster could web a talking wolverine who not ready to fight whoopy for him. When has taskmaster ever used spidermans webbing?

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so I don't see why Taskmaster couldn't use it in the same way, considering he has even better aim.

Seeing how spidermans never done it then taskmaster stands no chance. Task master has better aim? Are you serous? Spiderman has perfect aim due to his powers. Taskmaster could only have spidermans aim if he had spiderman powers which he does not which means his aim is not as good?

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Cap's shield with Cap's (and bullseye's) precision could certainly help secure taskmaster's win -.

When has taskmaster ever used bulleyes powers? Also when ahs he done ti with a shield? Not to mention wolverine could still easily dodge it or simple deflect it.

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unless you're arguing that a hulk-stunning ICBM-destroying throw wouldn't even phase logan.

Im not even sure what your talking about here.

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Beyond that? Gimme some evidence that a berserking Logan would be unreadable by taskmaster. His abilities don't work the same way the telepath's do - he SEES movement, and copies it - memorizes it. He doesn't read the mind of the person doing it

How do you read the moves of some one who fighting on instinct? Wolverine fighting as if on instincts he using complex strategies with out having to think them through and he can switch them any time with out having to think. How do you read a person who constantly switching there style based of instincts?

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Past that? So what if he only had thirty seconds of video of Logan fighting?

Makes a big deal when your fighting a person who has about 100 or more years of experience.

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Deadpool is on par with Wolverine in the skill department,

No he not. He has no were near the experiences and is not on wolverines skill level. He is and always will be a whole level below wolverine is the skill department.

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and Taskmaster only needed to watch Wade for a few panels to see enough to take him out the first time 'round.

That’s what you call one sided prep and also wade is not as skilled as Logan nor does he have many of wolverines abilities. Also wades a terrible shot.

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Taskmater may not have a healing factor - but the combined skills and weapons of Daredevil, Bullseye, Captain America, Deadpool, Spiderman, the Silver Samurai, and even a bit of Logan himself could certainly valet that fact.

No at all. Wolverine has beat DD. Wolverine has taken it to capt. Wolverine ahs taken it to every single person on that list and more. Taskmaster does not have what it takes to KO wolverine in the time provided to take the majority.

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Also, Im getting off for the night, but I wanted to point out a few other things:

You asked earlier about Taskmaster's speedblitzing:

Taskmaster has speedblitzed someone fast enough to catch a bullet. Nifty.

He has also cut down five guys so fast that they couldn't even get a bead on him.

He has also switched off his image-inducer and shot six men before any one of them could turn around.

About his speed and agility with reference to Daredevil and Spidey: it is true that Taskmaster says that he can't duplicate EVERYTHING, but he also refers to copying Daredevil's and Spiderman's speed and agility to dodge while fighting Spider-man.

He's taken out Cat (Shang Chi's main baddie) in three panels. He's owned up on Zaran the weapons master. He's taken it to Spiderman repeatedly, he has beaten deadpool. He's beaten Captain America.

Give the man some respect! Christ! I'm not even sure how many wins I think I'd give him out of ten, but you are acting like it would be impossible for him to take ANY - ridiculous.

I'm not entirely sure, honestly, but I could see Taskmaster taking anywhere from four to six wins out of the ten. He's just damned amazing.

wolverine has match every thing on that list and then some. I am giving TM repsect. I simple see logan taking the majority. it will be close, but TM is not winning this match. I say logan takes it 6/10 maby more.

either way it close one. what the hell are you talking about that I was acting like he can't win any. I never said that. grimm22 was the one saying TM beats logan 100/10. I even admitted the fight would be close, in no way did I acted as if TM would be taken out like a punk.

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He has never mastered wolverine skills. he has a 2 minut video of wolverine.

he knows some of what capt has master. he does not know every thing he has bits and pieces. He not more skiled then logan at all.
He also has no means of KOing logan.
he slower
he not as durable
he not going to win. hell he got schooled by mister x


Faster? Debatable. I don't have the scan on me (I think it's in some Taskmaster-related thread in the Comic Book forum), but by watching the tapes he has at higher speeds (in this case it was double), he can actually move twice as fast. Basically, at almost any speed he watches the tapes.

He has several dozen more martial arts based strikes that could put Wolverine down after countering everything Wolvie throws at him.

You're not going to agree, and I've learned to accept that. But, based on the many scans I've seen on Taskmaster, the knowledge of who he's watched, and my knowledge of Wolverine's incredible martial arts skill, Taskmater is most definitely the better martial artist/fighter of the two.


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Faster? Debatable. I don't have the scan on me (I think it's in some Taskmaster-related thread in the Comic Book forum), but by watching the tapes he has at higher speeds (in this case it was double), he can actually move twice as fast. Basically, at almost any speed he watches the tapes.

He has several dozen more martial arts based strikes that could put Wolverine down after countering everything Wolvie throws at him.

You're not going to agree, and I've learned to accept that. But, based on the many scans I've seen on Taskmaster, the knowledge of who he's watched, and my knowledge of Wolverine's incredible martial arts skill, Taskmater is most definitely the better martial artist/fighter of the two.

ive seen scanns of both and I don't agree. taskmaster has bit and pieces of different styles.

any ways it does not matter because wolverine durability is what wins the match. what strike woudl put logan down? Id love to see that

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any ways it does not matter because wolverine durability is what wins the match. what strike woudl put logan down? Id love to see that


That whole body paralyzing shoulder stab perhaps roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Taskmaster decapitates him

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Taskmaster decapitates him

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Oh yeah...bone claws....big grin!

Anyways - since I have NONE of my scans on me, can anyone point out the instances where Taskmaster's used Spidey's Webbing, Logan's Claws, Captain America's shield, Bullseye's aim, etc? We're all aware that he's done it, but Capt it up is always hungry for 'proff' when it's against Logan.


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Oh yeah...bone claws....big grin!

Anyways - since I have NONE of my scans on me, can anyone point out the instances where Taskmaster's used Spidey's Webbing, Logan's Claws, Captain America's shield, Bullseye's aim, etc? We're all aware that he's done it, but Capt it up is always hungry for 'proff' when it's against Logan.


Mimicking various styles:

1. http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1wd9.jpg
2. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2fu4.jpg

Agility:

http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=agilitycv1.jpg

Cap's Shield:

http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shieldnf5.jpg

Spider-Man's webs:

http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=websqc7.jpg

Punisher:

http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?...punishergu9.jpg

Silver Samurai:

http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?...rsamuraige8.jpg

Accuracy & stuff (but with older crappier costume)

1. http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?...ht005003pb1.jpg
2. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...ht005006wr8.jpg

Speed:

1. http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speed1gv6.jpg
2. http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speed2tg1.jpg


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Thanks for the assist, Scoob.


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Er guys...

Marvel.com

Taskmaster has no known superhuman powers. However, with the help of the Albino, Taskmaster briefly had the ability to mimic other peoples powers by studying them. This power ended up only being temporary due to the process being interrupted by Hawkeye, Firestar, and Justice.

None of those scans refer to the above do they?

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