We do know that Ayane can take opponents with much larger weapons and many more ways to beat her than Taki has.
I'm still not giving Taki the nod. I can't believe of all people that Ayane is going to be voted to lose against, it's Taki. Think about it guys. What exactly has she done so far to say she could take Ayane for the majority?
Ayane still takes 6/10 from her.
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I am giving it to Taki because both of them are fast; they can both teleport; and both have nasty spells. However we do know Taki's skills with her blade unlike Ayane. That's it.
Now if we give Ayane that dual lightsaber weapon Genra had it would be a different match IMO.
Edit: Although you are right about Taki...she has not done anything in the SCverse.
I fear I may be under rating Ayane. She did take down an opponent wielding dual light/plasma/whatever staff
It's just that they seem so even...and hot.
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Are you sure Taki can teleport? I just turned on my Soul Caliber game and did a quick little skim of her move list and couldn't find a teleport.
Not only did Genra have a weapon, but suprisingly it's not even that fight that helps Ayane's case here. There's a fight much more relevant to this than Genra. Has everyone forgotten about Kasumi? Kasumi can do most anything Taki can do AND on a higher level. Now I do see what you're saying Superboy Prime. Due to Taki's powerset, she can take some wins. However, it's not like Ayane hasn't faced someone who is faster than herself, can teleport, has faster spells, and actually has victories under her belt. Ayane should take the majority.
They are both hot and Taki isn't that far behind Ayane though.
Last edited by StyleTime on Jul 23rd, 2007 at 04:20 PM
Really? Because almost all characters notoriously have abilities in FMVs and cutscenes that they never possess ingame. And ‘feats’? Does this only count as a part of the videogame storyline? Or do canonical (or even non–canonical) books, comics, animé, etc. count?
And I don’t take it too far. I mean, I don’t start going on about 2D SF framerate vs 3D SC ones! If I did then the SF crew would pwn SC’s folks because SF characters get their moves out in less frames than combatants in SC… So I think I approach it in a valid way.
And StyleTime: Taki can’t teleport in SC2 though she can move incredibly quickly.
I honestly believe a lot of old timer gamers who love the 2D fighting games and decry 3D fighting games do so because their brains can’t grow accustomed to natural movement in a 3D plane!
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Taki has a powerful arsenal of ninpo's that have less execution time than Ayane.
Also, she has more experience than Ayane on the long run. Wether fighting demons is impressive or not. She's demonstrated more formibidality with an edged weapon compared Ayane.
Also, Taki does have a teleport in one of her win quotes.
I never doubted Taki's spells. And I gave Taki the nod because if the fight was weapon-based Taki has more showings than Ayane to back her up--quite in fact Ayane has none. However flipping the coin if the fight was strictly H2H it is common sense Ayane would have the upper hand.
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What has ayane demonstrated foor us to give her a superior H2h showing? I admitt, she could possibly defeat Taki in H2h because her fight with kasumi. But, her advantage isn't too wide.
Are you seriously asking me what has Ayane done in strict hand 2 hand to show her superiority?
For starters she has showings in H2H unlike Taki. It's exactly the same thing. I give Taki the nod against Ayane with weapons because Ayane has not shown us anything. Same goes for Taki and a strict hand 2 hand showing.
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But, Taki is not Kasumi and she only defeated her once. Also, just a moment ago you claimed taki has done nothing and then post this: "Kasumi can do most anything Taki can do AND on a higher level."
Are you aware of Taki's feats?
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I never thought of the fact that Ayane obtained Genra's energy sword after their fight, though yeah, we haven't seen her use it before.
As for Taki feats, they've been shown in the SCI intro, SCII intro and she can do all those stunts that she does in the game. She can teleport, she can travel extremely fast and what she does is explained in her profiles. DZ explained a bit about her himself.
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