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firstly he never said beings higher than him. Its a paradox. Something that created God. kinda like can an omnipotent create a rock it cannot lift thing.
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Well the entire discussion boiled down to if God was truly being honest to Lucifer about everything! God asked him to rejoin him and Luci said no still wondering if it was a part of the great plan. In the end Lucifer stayed true to what he thinks is right and they both went there own way in the void.
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Hello Vertigo is not canon in DCU. Even the editors of DCU have said that. It cannot be true. Cause in Lucifer's reality there is no hell but in DCU there is that alone ruins your whole theory. sure they have similarities as they are from the same company but they are not one.
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They were never rectonned..... It was an Marvel comic not an Marvel/DC comic, one cannot rectonn what one hasn't created, this would be just illogical. Those Brothers are different entities, they are not the Marvel/DC Brothers, except if you can show me the same recton in an DC Comic.
Marvel tried to rectonn the Brothers, but can they do it all by themselves or do they need DC or an Crossover for such a task? What would happen if DC would bring out an Comic in which the Spectre creates two brothers each representing, say, an Omniverse , and says something like "As I have created an golden, three faced Judge before, to pose as the Tribunal, for my entertainment, I will create two BROTHERS even more powerful then him, and enable them to rival even my superior power". What would we have then? Don't go into the details of the quote, it's not there to make sense, it just there to show what could happen if a company would try to rectonn an crossover event all by themself and the illlogic it creates. When both companies would take a different take on an Crossover we would be left with an paradoxon. The Brothers from DC vs Marvel never existed because they re not canon.
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the editors of DCU said they were not one. and the fact that hell exists in DCU but not Vertigo shows that they aren't one. They are similar due to coming from the same company but they aren't the same.
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Very nice scans, I thought everyone already knew YHWH and The Presence was the same being. He is supreme, the main thing is i've noticed reading a few things about The Source that would indicate they are 1 and the same being. The Word/Logos is God in the flesh aka Christ.
Vertigo's Yahweh and DC's Presence are not one and the same.
Yahweh left creation behind, and his name does not bind creation anymore, nor is he part of it. It was given to Elaine.
Elaine destroyed Yahweh's concepts, like heaven and hell.
Yet, those still exist in DC.
DC does not acknowledge Vertigo at all.
Even in the DC Editors panels, when someone mentions something from Vertigo, Didio cuts them short "That's Vertigo, it doesn't count."
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But Vertigo's Presence (As he was refered to in those scans) isn't supreme, as he said himself.
And he had to create a couple of practice universes before being able to make Vertigo ...
Why would DC's Presence > Vertigo's Presence?
i thought the presence was yet ANOTHER aspect of god, simply the most powerful. wouldn't the full god be the voice, the presence, the word, the will, the wrath etc. combined?
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